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thethe said:
Your close mindedness thinks if someone doesn’t think exactly like you they can’t be pro life. Funny because your ideology will lead to more abortions.

You’re basically no different than the radical leftists.
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I get it dude... you've sold out and have become hateful vitriolic because of it

Why isn't Trump fighting to defeat amendment 4 in Florida? Do you not want him to? Is there anyone in the Republican Party who could move the needle as much as he could?
 
sturg33 said:
for which organization?

I donate the majority of my $ to PreBorn.

Are they a "poor pro life org who will struggle to raise money in the future?"

is that a good outcome for you?
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Well if they actually have a real strategy to deal with a post dobbs world that doesn’t include a federal ban on abortikns thst would result in a R wipeout then they will do just fine.
 
thethe said:
Well if they actually have a real strategy to deal with a post dobbs world that doesn’t include a federal ban on abortikns thst would result in a R wipeout then they will do just fine.
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do you think it helps this organization that Republican Party is now demonizing pro life organizations because their mad about this one chick?
 
sturg33 said:
I get it dude... you've sold out and have become hateful vitriolic because of it

Why isn't Trump fighting to defeat amendment 4 in Florida? Do you not want him to? Is there anyone in the Republican Party who could move the needle as much as he could?
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Because he has to win the most important national election in our nations history. Sorry you’re too close minded to understand national politics and don’t get this country is sadly mostly pro abortion.
 
sturg33 said:
do you think it helps this organization that Republican Party is now demonizing pro life organizations because their mad about this one chick?
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Every single pro life organization that is slamming the only avenue to actually get pro life policies pushed forward 100% should be demonized and with more vigor than is being done right now.

What’s the plan to afterwards when they suppress Republican votes?
 
thethe said:
Because he has to win the most important national election in our nations history. Sorry you’re too close minded to understand national politics and don’t get this country is sadly mostly pro abortion.
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so you, thethe, do not want the most influential man in republican politics to work to defeat a bill that will allow for abortion up until birth in the 2nd biggest state in the country?

what are we fighting for here, man?
 
thethe said:
Every single pro life organization that is slamming the only avenue to actually get pro life policies pushed forward 100% should be demonized and with more vigor than is being done right now.

What’s the plan to afterwards when they suppress Republican votes?
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in the case of pre-born, they go to abortion clinics and offer a free ultrasound to women who are contemplating getting abortions, and more than half who do it change their mind.

feel free to demonize them. but don't pretend you're pro life. and stop trying to make me cower to your stupid cult for not going along with it
 
sturg33 said:
so you, thethe, do not want the most influential man in republican politics to work to defeat a bill that will allow for abortion up until birth in the 2nd biggest state in the country?

what are we fighting for here, man?
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Not with an election two months away. Because you know I understand politics and the fact if we don’t win we will get much worse abortion policies pushed through.
 
sturg33 said:
in the case of pre-born, they go to abortion clinics and offer a free ultrasound to women who are contemplating getting abortions, and more than half who do it change their mind.

feel free to demonize them. but don't pretend you're pro life. and stop trying to make me cower to your stupid cult for not going along with it
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Is this organization slamming the Republican presidential ticket? If not, then they are smart.
 
thethe said:
Not with an election two months away. Because you know I understand politics and the fact if we don’t win we will get much worse abortion policies pushed through.
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and you think Trump saying "Florida republicans should vote this monstrous bill down, which allows for the slaughter of babies til the moment of birth" will cost him November election?

I thought we had a landslide here. the statement above is entirely consistent with his stated position on abortion
 
sturg33 said:
and you think Trump saying "Florida republicans should vote this monstrous bill down, which allows for the slaughter of babies til the moment of birth" will cost him November election?

I thought we had a landslide here. the statement above is entirely consistent with his stated position on abortion
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Abortion is a powerful issue and Trump has almost taken it off the table. That’s why it will be a landslide. Every wonder why 22 was a whimper even though EVERYONE was predicting a national blowout? Maybe it was good olde Lindsay graham and his national abortion ban.
 
sturg33 said:
not that I know of... but thank you for confirming that the issue is disobedience to the god

carry on
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Yes - criticism of the inky avenue to get solid pro life principles and a non tyrannical government is disobedience to one man. You’re such a joke it’s amusing.

Like I said - the cult excuse only works once. If you start using it in the future then you are in the cult.
 
thethe said:
Abortion is a powerful issue and Trump has almost taken it off the table. That’s why it will be a landslide. Every wonder why 22 was a whimper even though EVERYONE was predicting a national blowout? Maybe it was good olde Lindsay graham and his national abortion ban.
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1. he doesn't have the numbers you think he has if stating republicans should vote down a monstrous abortion bill in a state dominated republicans will cost him the national election

2. that he consistently chooses politics over doing what is right is why he's not the guy to accomplish anything you're promising
 
thethe said:
Yes - criticism of the inky avenue to get solid pro life principles and a non tyrannical government is disobedience to one man. You’re such a joke it’s amusing.

Like I said - the cult excuse only works once. If you start using it in the future then you are in the cult.
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he's managed to flip you 180 on a subject you used to strongly agree with me. I'm still where I have been. You're where Trump is.

like you re on every issue

cult
 
sturg33 said:
1. he doesn't have the numbers you think he has if stating republicans should vote down a monstrous abortion bill in a state dominated republicans will cost him the national election

2. that he consistently chooses politics over doing what is right is why he's not the guy to accomplish anything you're promising
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RDS hid his abortion beliefs when he had an election but of course he’s cool in your eyes. Maybe he understands politics just like Trump does.
 
sturg33 said:
he's managed to flip you 180 on a subject you used to strongly agree with me. I'm still where I have been. You're where Trump is.

like you re on every issue

cult
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Explain the 180 flip in detail

What was my position a few years ago and what is it now.
 
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This is who sturg defends while tru pro life orgs that are dedicated to the cause understand to stay out of these things and know trump is the only choice right now.
 
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