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thethe said:
There have been numerous complaits filed with the police department that are not being investigated of actual house pets dissapearing.

As usual, time will be kind to those that understand this is actually happening.

Whenever the media is vocally trying to call something fake that should be the biggest tell.
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Interesting... because the police department specifically said they haven't received any reports of stolen or eaten pets... doesn't make any sense they would be covering it up. Law enforcement isn't going to cover something up for some liberal agenda. Yet, the only actual evidence we have has been proven pretty clearly false.
 
And for the record, I'm trying to have a level headed conversation. I'm done with personal attacks. I've been a bitter person lately and I haven't had a good attitude to those I don't agree with on here and I want to apologize for that. This bitter divide is a huge problem with what's going on in our country right now... I just want to be able to have respectful conversation with anyone, no matter their views. So, if I see something that really makes me see red, I probably just won't respond. But I think we can all do better.
 
zbhargrove said:
And for the record, I'm trying to have a level headed conversation. I'm done with personal attacks. I've been a bitter person lately and I haven't had a good attitude to those I don't agree with on here and I want to apologize for that. This bitter divide is a huge problem with what's going on in our country right now... I just want to be able to have respectful conversation with anyone, no matter their views. So, if I see something that really makes me see red, I probably just won't respond. But I think we can all do better.
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I'm aligned with you.
 
chop2chip said:
The Haitian pets story is the quickest way to devolve an actual serious issue (border security and illegal immigration) into a full blown meme.
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Its a great way to enhance the narrative and permeate through the voters until election day.

Its a microcasm of the biggest issue this country faces.

This was the goal.
 
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Majority of people that are posting on this forum are not a representation of the the countries makeup.

What some think is a bad performance ends up being a good performance.

You can't look at the debate in its entirety. Its bits and pieces to push through to voters and leave a lasting impression.
 
My view of the debate... I didn't watch the whole thing but a lot of it. I thought the moderator bias was real and obvious. Anyone saying otherwise is not being honest with themselves. But Trump really did fall for every piece of bait and absolutely bombed the performance for the most part. That being said, not sure if it really will make any difference in the end as this kind of thing always just seems to embolden Trump supporters. I would also like to see them debate in a setting like Fox News or like what cajun suggested.
 
thethe said:
Its a great way to enhance the narrative and permeate through the voters until election day.

Its a microcasm of the biggest issue this country faces.

This was the goal.
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But it’s not relatable because no one is actually afraid Haitian’s are going to eat their pets.
 
chop2chip said:
But it’s not relatable because no one is actually afraid Haitian’s are going to eat their pets.
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Its not about the pets to most people. Its an absurdity (which I believe will be proven to be accurate) to leave a lasting impression on the population and that impression is that our way of life is being drastically diminished because of unfettered illegal migration.
 
thethe said:
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Majority of people that are posting on this forum are not a representation of the the countries makeup.

What some think is a bad performance ends up being a good performance.

You can't look at the debate in its entirety. Its bits and pieces to push through to voters and leave a lasting impression.
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Harris was smooth with little substance.

Trump had substance but wasn't smooth.

The 3 on 1 pileup rattled Trump a bit.
 
chop2chip said:
But it’s not relatable because no one is actually afraid Haitian’s are going to eat their pets.
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In the city council clip I watched, apparently there are like 10-20,000 imported overnight. This old lady is telling the city council that there are men camping on her front lawn yelling at her every morning and they won't remove them.

one other complaint is they can't speak english and are driving. One guy describes them flipping over a car and just walking away.

The guy concludes that someone had to be paid to allow this to get dropped on a city overnight like this. (It is a black guy dressed all in red)
 
Tapate50 said:
In the city council clip I watched, apparently there are like 10-20,000 imported overnight. This old lady is telling the city council that there are men camping on her front lawn yelling at her every morning and they won't remove them.

one other complaint is they can't speak english and are driving. One guy describes them flipping over a car and just walking away.

The guy concludes that someone had to be paid to allow this to get dropped on a city overnight like this. (It is a black guy dressed all in red)
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There's absolutely no way a town of 58,000 people is importing thousands of immigrants, let alone tens of thousands
 
Garmel said:
Harris was smooth with little substance.

Trump had substance but wasn't smooth.

The 3 on 1 pileup rattled Trump a bit.
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Harris was smooth, but she really injected very little in the way of policy info to the viewer. That was fairly obvious.

Trump rambled as he usually does. I actually liked that he showed some emotion as to what the country has become under Harris. I don't want a robot, but some emotion is fine. He did correct the moderators on the Fine People Hoax, and a few other points. He got her on Abortions in the last trimester IMO. She wouldn't answer (and the Gov of VA admitting to post birth issues). I get tired of the "lack of medical care for a woman bleeding out in a parking lot or else the doctor goes to jail" arguement.
 
Tapate50 said:
In the city council clip I watched, apparently there are like 10-20,000 imported overnight. This old lady is telling the city council that there are men camping on her front lawn yelling at her every morning and they won't remove them.

one other complaint is they can't speak english and are driving. One guy describes them flipping over a car and just walking away.

The guy concludes that someone had to be paid to allow this to get dropped on a city overnight like this. (It is a black guy dressed all in red)
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And Trumps goal was to put out a claim that forces people to pay attention to whats happening.
 
Tapate50 said:
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Yeah, I saw the clip. My wife just works with refugees and immigrants (granted these are legal) and those numbers seem far from real. I also saw that this guy is a well known social media influencer... so I'm taking anything he says with a huge grain of salt. Don't get me wrong, illegal immigration is a huge problem... I just wish we could approach the problem without exaggerations and false data/claims... it doesn't help.
 
zbhargrove said:
Yeah, I saw the clip. My wife just works with refugees and immigrants (granted these are legal) and those numbers seem far from real. I also saw that this guy is a well known social media influencer... so I'm taking anything he says with a huge grain of salt. Don't get me wrong, illegal immigration is a huge problem... I just wish we could approach the problem without exaggerations and false data/claims... it doesn't help.
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His story is people are coming to him online needing help BECAUSE he's an online presence. , and he's not the only one.
 
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