2024 Field

RCP now has Trump leading in every single swing state except for WI, which shows a .3 Harris lead.

Another telling sign that Kamala has significantly less support than Biden in 2020 is that Minnesota is currently polling much worse for Kamala than it did for Biden, who took the state by 7 points in 2020 after having an average polling lead of 8.5 points in the month before the election. And this is despite Harris having a popular MN governor as her running mate.
 
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No one gives a **** about objecting to the certification. Object away. All it does is waste time. If Republicans simply said "well we disagree with the results and we think there was fraud so we are going to object to the certification and then not vote to certify" it would be a very minor issue. No one is indicted for objecting. No one is indicted for not voting for certification in Congress.
 
sturg33 said:
Yeah but calls to kill these programs which grow every year gets you accused of hating poor people and being anti--life. Those accusations come from leftists and MAGA

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The are illegals and not American citizens. Also, more Americans need welfare becusss of the cheap labor being imported in. Making this a “welfare” argument is lol worthy.
 
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LOL thos regime is so pathetic

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Democrats fight transparency and election integrity at all turns. There is a clear reason for this.

They know 2020 was stolen and who knows how far back these shenanigans go. Maybe Romney did win in 2012.
 
thethe said:
The are illegals and not American citizens. Also, more Americans need welfare becusss of the cheap labor being imported in. Making this a “welfare” argument is lol worthy.
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I don't have a globe subscription, so can you post where it says the 700k are all illegals?

Also, your boy Vivek correctly points out that welfare programs are the incentive that drives illegals here
 
sturg33 said:
I don't have a globe subscription, so can you post where it says the 700k are all illegals?

Also, your boy Vivek correctly points out that welfare programs are the incentive that drives illegals here
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I didn’t say they are all illegals but the jump is primarily driven by illegals presence. To not acknowledge this is insanity.

And yes - giving welfare to illegals is a driver of illegal migration but that’s a policy on welfare not welfare itself.

Without illegals in the country from the past four years the system is much more manageable.
 
thethe said:
Also, more Americans need welfare
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cuz they're whiners

immigrants are needed to work and pay taxes needed to support all the native born Americans unwilling/unable to make a contribution to society

no flowers or thank you notes expected

we do it out of love
 
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thethe said:
I didn’t say they are all illegals but the jump is primarily driven by illegals presence. To not acknowledge this is insanity.

And yes - giving welfare to illegals is a driver of illegal migration but that’s a policy on welfare not welfare itself.

Without illegals in the country from the past four years the system is much more manageable.
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Are there any examples of welfare programs that have gotten smaller due to their success?
 
sturg33 said:
Are there any examples of welfare programs that have gotten smaller due to their success?
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Would be hard to gauge something like that in isolation without stripping bout the impacts of illegal migration and things like anti policing. It’s not a simplistic first grade problem that you want to make it out to be.
 
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