2024 Field

[nsacpi]

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In his speech last night to his supporters at Mar-a-Lago, made several hours after he was arraigned in Manhattan on 34 felony counts, Donald Trump took aim at Juan Merchan, the judge in the case.

“I have a Trump-hating judge with a Trump-hating wife and family, whose daughter worked for Kamala Harris and now receives money from the Biden-Harris campaign, and a lot of it,” Trump said. He also compared the conduct of Merchan, who presided over the Trump Organization’s tax-fraud trial, to something “right out of the old Soviet Union.”

Earlier in the day, two of Trump’s sons, Don Jr. and Eric, attacked the judge’s daughter as well, with the former tweeting a picture of her. This came a few days after Trump posted a fake image of himself swinging a baseball bat at the head of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, whom Trump referred to on his Truth Social platform as an “animal.”

 

[sturg33]

Why would you give an endorsement to someone who says not to do it?

I'm told that he is competent enough to ensure his 2024 election won't be stolen again

This is yet another weird strategy move, if he genuinely believes his endorsement would have changed the result (even though it didn't matter in 2020)

 

[thethe]

Trump: I alone could change the results of the Wisconsin race with my support, but I will choose not to!

Trump loses Wisconsin in 2024

Thethe in 2024: The election was stolen!!!! Only trump can win. Trump 2028!!!

Oh I have no doubts the GOP will allow the 2024 race to be stolen like they did in 2020. You used to think that too until of course you flip flopped.

Its ok though - Keep supporting the CCP.

 

[chop2chip]

Because MAGA is expected to bend over and take it without any say. American people are supposed to get ****ed because successful people don't care about middle america that have lost their livlihoods to globalism.

They will never understand so we will watch the country burn and then pick up the ashes to how people are supposed to live.

Traditional GOP? Get the **** out of here with that nonsense. You go support the CCP you lapdogs.

First question

Can you or Donald please cite your source where Kelly bragged about not wanting Trump’s endorsement?

Second question

Do you believe the outcome of this election in Wisconsin makes it more or less likely Trump wins the 2024 election?

 

[sturg33]

Because MAGA is expected to bend over and take it without any say. American people are supposed to get ****ed because successful people don't care about middle america that have lost their livlihoods to globalism.

They will never understand so we will watch the country burn and then pick up the ashes to how people are supposed to live.

Traditional GOP? Get the **** out of here with that nonsense. You go support the CCP you lapdogs.

So are you happy that trump by his own admission decided not ensure this election would result in his favor?

 

[Garmel]

I'm told that he is competent enough to ensure his 2024 election won't be stolen again

This is yet another weird strategy move, if he genuinely believes his endorsement would have changed the result (even though it didn't matter in 2020)

Wouldn't you abide by the person's wishes? If they tell you not to endorse them then you don't do it.

 

[sturg33]

Wouldn't you abide by the person's wishes. If they tell you not to endorse them then you don't do it.

1. Did Kelly tell him not to endorse him?

2. If I believe I could say the word to win an election to help my chances in 2024, I would instruct my cult to go support him hours after I was just arrested

 

[thethe]

So are you happy that trump by his own admission decided not ensure this election would result in his favor?

I am happy that we won't bend over for to the traditional GOP when they do nothing but undercut MAGA. Look at what Europe has had to go through for decades and now they are finally making inroads. I don't give a **** if Trump is never president again. Lake will be one day or Vance or Gaetz or Kent.

The traditional GOP sold this country out dry and people want to pretend that the people they sold out should still follow them.

GTFO

 

[thethe]

First question

Can you or Donald please cite your source where Kelly bragged about not wanting Trump’s endorsement?

Second question

Do you believe the outcome of this election in Wisconsin makes it more or less likely Trump wins the 2024 election?

I have no clue about the endorsement - Trump lies a bunch and as I've said I don't care about any of that because he was the greatest president we have had in a LONG time. Then the bioweapon came and then the GOP sat by and allowed the steal to happen (in some cases ran the steal).

Trump being president again at this point is irrelevant. This is not about Trump. Trump was just hte first one to actually push policies that helped AMERICA.

 

[nsacpi]

Two things are happening at once: Trump, depraved and deranged, is lashing out, more venomous than ever. As my colleague David Graham notes, in last night’s speech, Trump described Special Counsel Jack Smith as “a radical-left lunatic known as a bomb thrower”; the Fulton County, Georgia, prosecutor Fani Willis as “a local racist Democrat district attorney in Atlanta”; and New York Attorney General Letitia James as a “racist.” All three are investigating Trump.

Republican officials, whether they appreciate and admire Trump or are fearful of and submissive to him, continue to stand by him. They recognize that he is the most dominant and popular figure in the Republican Party. And they are stuck with him.

They have had countless opportunities over the years to take the exit ramp, from the release of the Access Hollywood tape, to Trump’s first impeachment, to his attempt to overthrow an election, to the violent insurrection at the Capitol. They have refused every time. More criminal charges of an even more serious nature are unlikely to change that. We’re witnessing the political equivalent of abuse victims struggling to break with their abusers. Having long failed to part ways with Trump, they now feel like they can never break with him. Privately, many Republicans hope that someone else, anyone else, including prosecutors, will do what they were too craven to do, and free them of Trump. But publicly, they are, almost to a person, on his side. The tribe demands no less of its members. To do otherwise is to suffer the fate of the intrepid Liz Cheney.

Republican leaders never grasped how, at every juncture, their willingness to go along with Trump even when they knew better—their willingness to defend his misdeeds, to attack his critics, to bite their tongue, to engage in whataboutism—increased Trump’s hold on the party and further radicalized the base. As that happened, the “normies” became more passive, more compliant, less influential, and more willing to accept and defend a man who is, by any reasonable standard, crazed and unstable. And so, here we are.

The Trump era has been illuminating in this regard. In the past, wondering just how far a party would go in defense of its leader was a matter of speculation. But Trump has moved this question from the realm of speculation to the realm of reality. The GOP has hitched its wagon to Trump, and he is leading them to places even they never imagined. A grotesque man presides over a grotesque party.

In January 2016, when Trump said he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters, people thought it was hyperbole. It turned out to be prophecy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=the-atlantic

 

[thethe]

Two things are happening at once: Trump, depraved and deranged, is lashing out, more venomous than ever. As my colleague David Graham notes, in last night’s speech, Trump described Special Counsel Jack Smith as “a radical-left lunatic known as a bomb thrower”; the Fulton County, Georgia, prosecutor Fani Willis as “a local racist Democrat district attorney in Atlanta”; and New York Attorney General Letitia James as a “racist.” All three are investigating Trump.

Republican officials, whether they appreciate and admire Trump or are fearful of and submissive to him, continue to stand by him. They recognize that he is the most dominant and popular figure in the Republican Party. And they are stuck with him.

They have had countless opportunities over the years to take the exit ramp, from the release of the Access Hollywood tape, to Trump’s first impeachment, to his attempt to overthrow an election, to the violent insurrection at the Capitol. They have refused every time. More criminal charges of an even more serious nature are unlikely to change that. We’re witnessing the political equivalent of abuse victims struggling to break with their abusers. Having long failed to part ways with Trump, they now feel like they can never break with him. Privately, many Republicans hope that someone else, anyone else, including prosecutors, will do what they were too craven to do, and free them of Trump. But publicly, they are, almost to a person, on his side. The tribe demands no less of its members. To do otherwise is to suffer the fate of the intrepid Liz Cheney.

Republican leaders never grasped how, at every juncture, their willingness to go along with Trump even when they knew better—their willingness to defend his misdeeds, to attack his critics, to bite their tongue, to engage in whataboutism—increased Trump’s hold on the party and further radicalized the base. As that happened, the “normies” became more passive, more compliant, less influential, and more willing to accept and defend a man who is, by any reasonable standard, crazed and unstable. And so, here we are.

The Trump era has been illuminating in this regard. In the past, wondering just how far a party would go in defense of its leader was a matter of speculation. But Trump has moved this question from the realm of speculation to the realm of reality. The GOP has hitched its wagon to Trump, and he is leading them to places even they never imagined. A grotesque man presides over a grotesque party.

In January 2016, when Trump said he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters, people thought it was hyperbole. It turned out to be prophecy.

^ This is now the logic you guys are following.

The media finally beat you down.

 

[sturg33]

Oh I have no doubts the GOP will allow the 2024 race to be stolen like they did in 2020. You used to think that too until of course you flip flopped.

Its ok though - Keep supporting the CCP.

I have told you the reason I support RDS over Trump is bc I think RDS is more competent and capable of overcoming obstacles stacked against him.

Yesterday you said this result was very bad.

Today you have gotten your new script that Kelly can go **** himself for not kissing the ring

Why am I suppose to have confidence that trump is able to overcome institutional obstacles when he proves over and over and over again that he cannot.

And we get to do this same song and dance until the man literally dies, I guess

 

[sturg33]

I am happy that we won't bend over for to the traditional GOP when they do nothing but undercut MAGA. Look at what Europe has had to go through for decades and now they are finally making inroads. I don't give a **** if Trump is never president again. Lake will be one day or Vance or Gaetz or Kent.

The traditional GOP sold this country out dry and people want to pretend that the people they sold out should still follow them.

GTFO

Wasn't Kelly a stop the steal guy?

And didn't trunp previously endorse him?

 

[thethe]

I have told you the reason I support RDS over Trump is bc I think RDS is more competent and capable of overcoming obstacles stacked against him.

Yesterday you said this result was very bad.

Today you have gotten your new script that Kelly can go **** himself for not kissing the ring

Why am I suppose to have confidence that trump is able to overcome institutional obstacles when he proves over and over and over again that he cannot.

And we get to do this same song and dance until the man literally dies, I guess

The result is very bad - How have I changed?

The whole thing needs to be burned to the ground and then can be rebuilt.

 

[Garmel]

1. Did Kelly tell him not to endorse him?

2. If I believe I could say the word to win an election to help my chances in 2024, I would instruct my cult to go support him hours after I was just arrested

From what I've read he did refuse an endorsement. Several sources have reported it.

 

[sturg33]

^ This is now the logic you guys are following.

The media finally beat you down.

What beat me down is all the communists continuously beating me down in every meaningful election since Trump's victory...

Except in a few notable exceptions, but the trump cult says I'm not allowed to be happy about those

 

[thethe]

Wasn't Kelly a stop the steal guy?

And didn't trunp previously endorse him?

What does that matter? You don't think someone can materially change their position in a couple of years? Someone I know used to think 2020 was completely stolen but apparently not so much anymore.

This whole thing is rotten to the core and the traditional GOP is a big part of it. I'm resigned to letting it all burn to the ground now and then when the people realize that the old ways were part of the reason we are here the OVERWHELMING majority will know the path forward and that is a moveward left on economics with a strong conseravtive value base.

 

[sturg33]

The result is very bad - How have I changed?

The whole thing needs to be burned to the ground and then can be rebuilt.

I for one think it would be better for trump or DeSantis to win in 2024 with entrenched allies rather than submitting to the communists

But I know the truth.p cult disagrees... If it's not trump, its burn it down

 

[thethe]

What beat me down is all the communists continuously beating me down in every meaningful election since Trump's victory...

Except in a few notable exceptions, but the trump cult says I'm not allowed to be happy about those

Yes - You let the coordinated steal by the uniparty beat you down.

I agree.

 

[thethe]

I for one think it would be better for trump or DeSantis to win in 2024 with entrenched allies rather than submitting to the communists

But I know the truth.p cult disagrees... If it's not trump, its burn it down

Like I said - I don't care if Trump wins or not at this point. Its very clear we have one party in this country and they don't care about the country.

You love to talk about hte communists here and yet you mock the idea of not supporting the head of the global communist party.

You don't see the contradiction in that at all?