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What would that revisionist history be that would be lapped up? How he didn’t assume a dictator role and all states that locked down would have regardless of the WH positions? Or how Trump rightly pushed alternative medicines from the very onset? How he correctly identified how it was a man made virus form the Wuhan lab? Or is it the fact he helped pushed a vaccine approval in record time that many of his detractors now called it - huge win for the country?

I’m still just trying to understand why Trump is to blame for leftists shutting down their states and the ccp releasing a bio weapon.

‘Maybe you can clarify for me.


His revisionism specifically regarding how Florida/RDS responded. Trump previously claimed in an interview with Megyn Kelly that DeSantis had a COVID vaccine mandate Florida. That's false. In that same interview, he claimed other (R) gov's kept their states wide open early in the pandemic when RDS did not. Also false. He makes the claim in his tweet that RDS was Fauci's biggest fan, which is just laughable in its stupidity. Fauci was employed by Trump and received a commendation (as part of the Warp Speed team) on Trump's way out of office.

He can and should do the things you say - celebrate the success of Warp Speed (the problem wasn't the vaccines, but the mandates), take a victory lap on the lab leak, etc. What he shouldn't do is pretend as though RDS governed COVID worse than Newsom, Cuomo, and the like. It's patently untrue and just unnecessary. But again, his base has proven to be immune to his distortions and lies, so I guess in the end it won't matter.
 
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His revisionism specifically regarding how Florida/RDS responded. Trump previously claimed in an interview with Megyn Kelly that DeSantis had a COVID vaccine mandate Florida. That's false. In that same interview, he claimed other (R) gov's kept their states wide open early in the pandemic when RDS did not. Also false. He makes the claim in his tweet that RDS was Fauci's biggest fan, which is just laughable in its stupidity. Fauci was employed by Trump and received a commendation (as part of the Warp Speed team) on Trump's way out of office.

He can and should do the things you say - celebrate the success of Warp Speed (the problem wasn't the vaccines, but the mandates), take a victory lap on the lab leak, etc. What he shouldn't do is pretend as though RDS governed COVID worse than Newsom, Cuomo, and the like. It's patently untrue and just unnecessary. But again, his base has proven to be immune to his distortions and lies, so I guess in the end it won't matter.

A person who had some self respect would be disgusted at the audacity to be lied to so blatantly

But the cultists have no self respect. They must go along with it because they are in fact in a cult
 
His revisionism specifically regarding how Florida/RDS responded. Trump previously claimed in an interview with Megyn Kelly that DeSantis had a COVID vaccine mandate Florida. That's false. In that same interview, he claimed other (R) gov's kept their states wide open early in the pandemic when RDS did not. Also false. He makes the claim in his tweet that RDS was Fauci's biggest fan, which is just laughable in its stupidity. Fauci was employed by Trump and received a commendation (as part of the Warp Speed team) on Trump's way out of office.

He can and should do the things you say - celebrate the success of Warp Speed (the problem wasn't the vaccines, but the mandates), take a victory lap on the lab leak, etc. What he shouldn't do is pretend as though RDS governed COVID worse than Newsom, Cuomo, and the like. It's patently untrue and just unnecessary. But again, his base has proven to be immune to his distortions and lies, so I guess in the end it won't matter.

I don’t believe a majority of us that support Trump think he never lies or at best greatly exaggerates.

The dishonest arguments don’t stop with Trump however. RDS performance gets juxtaposed with trumps but not the same timeline. Early on every single place even Florida had varied levels of lovkdowns. Early on RDS praised the WH and Covid response teams. That doesn’t make him a bad guy because early on being conservative was the right decision.

Even some of the most virulent RDS online supporters have tweets from mid 2020 or later blasting RDS and how he was handling COVID. But of course the dishonest twisting of trumps performance doesn’t get a rise out of you and I’ve come to expect that from a lot of people.
 
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But of course the dishonest twisting of trumps performance doesn’t get a rise out of you and I’ve come to expect that from a lot of people.

Trump got (and continues to get) a raw deal on aspects of his COVID handling from many out there. I'd be way more sympathetic if he focused on defending his record instead of trying to convince me that RDS was somehow worse on COVID than Cuomo.
 
Trump got (and continues to get) a raw deal on aspects of his COVID handling from many out there. I'd be way more sympathetic if he focused on defending his record instead of trying to convince me that RDS was somehow worse on COVID than Cuomo.

Fair point but Trump has been on the defensive from the minute he announced.

We will never know how great his four years could have been under normal circumstances.
 
Polls are ****ing weird right now. Latest Biden vs. X polls have the biggest spread advantage to Haley, who's 3rd in the Rep Polls. Lots of clutter in the polls though as the multi-way poll have Kennedy pulling 17% on the same ballot as Trump and Biden and we know that's not happening.
 
Polls are ****ing weird right now. Latest Biden vs. X polls have the biggest spread advantage to Haley, who's 3rd in the Rep Polls. Lots of clutter in the polls though as the multi-way poll have Kennedy pulling 17% on the same ballot as Trump and Biden and we know that's not happening.

Halley is mostly unknown to voters. If she ever became the nominee her numbers would tank after D attack ads.

That’s why trumps numbers are important because who else is going to hate him? And quite the contrary Trump has been so exposed and so much have been lies people that once didn’t like trump are now moving over to support him and the polls are showing that now.

What’s interesting is when you look at cross tabs and see the movement in younger voters.
 
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As more and more of the lies get exposed the American people become numb to the hoaxes levied against trump and long for the days he was our president.

The shame is that not enough people know to this day how corrupt the Biden family is and those numbers will get more lopsided over time.
 
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Can’t wait till we win in 24 and do true existence testing on the 2020 election so we strip the books this criminal enterprise was every truly elected.
 
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Can’t wait till we win in 24 and do true existence testing on the 2020 election so we strip the books this criminal enterprise was ever truly elected.



Let’s make a deal; we will all admit you were right if Trump wins, but if he loses again you can’t ever mention anything about a stolen election again. Deal?
 
Let’s make a deal; we will all admit you were right if Trump wins, but if he loses again you can’t ever mention anything about a stolen election again. Deal?

Why wouldn’t I talk about the time a presidential election was clearly stolen?

Such an odd question.

Go continue to cheer for Neo Cons like Haley.
 
there is not a world that exists where Trump loses and the cult doesn't claim it's stolen

but seriously why did he dump Masters?
 
Go continue to cheer for Neo Cons like Haley.

But you also think RDS is a neocon

hey you never commented on the fact that Karl Rove endorsed Haley.

You previously faithfully assured me he was running the RDS campaign.

Were you wrong? Or did Karl Rove abandon ship?

And if he abandoned ship, is there any evidence that he was ever behind RDS, like there is evidence that he is behind Haley?

(lucky for you, your little protest allows you to avoid defending your delusions.. good to be a cultist!)
 
Trump praising more lunatics. He loves Liomer, Alex B, and several other mentally unstable nutjobs.

Nobody competent will ever work for this guy again

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there is not a world that exists where Trump loses and the cult doesn't claim it's stolen

but seriously why did he dump Masters?


Trump knows it wasn’t stolen. He’s working his rabid fan base up and they’re falling for it. Dudes a showman.
 
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