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mqt said:
If you believe Jim Jordan had proven a link between Joe Biden and Hunter’s business dealings and hasn’t brought up some sort of impeachment charge yet, I’m not sure what to tell you.
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Well the DOJ doesn't play ball and the FBI is corrupt.

What can you do?

How about you do your own reserach and learn what type of agreements the Biden family had with some of the worst actors int he world. Then tell me what skills did Hunter actually have? And then tell me why family members were receiving internaional wires?

Its absolutely absurd you present yourself as a rationale individual and then pretend that Biden family isn't a bunch of criminals.
 
thethe said:
Well the DOJ doesn't play ball and the FBI is corrupt.

What can you do?

How about you do your own reserach and learn what type of agreements the Biden family had with some of the worst actors int he world. Then tell me what skills did Hunter actually have? And then tell me why family members were receiving internaional wires?

Its absolutely absurd you present yourself as a rationale individual and then pretend that Biden family isn't a bunch of criminals.
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I don’t recall saying they aren’t criminals, I said they’re not keeping Joe in office to avoid criminal prosecution. I don’t know one way or the other if Joe Biden did anything in office that violated corruption laws. A bunch of corrupt people thinking employing Hunter Biden would give them access and benefits doesn’t sway me, though. People waste their money on far dumber ideas than gambling on the VP’s coked out son to earn them favors, whether they received it or not.
 
mqt said:
I don’t recall saying they aren’t criminals, I said they’re not keeping Joe in office to avoid criminal prosecution. I don’t know one way or the other if Joe Biden did anything in office that violated corruption laws. A bunch of corrupt people thinking employing Hunter Biden would give them access and benefits doesn’t sway me, though. People waste their money on far dumber ideas than gambling on the VP’s coked out son to earn them favors, whether they received it or not.
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Amazing - Doesn't matter how 'reasonable' they present themselves as. They'll always believe the original lies and let that dictate their assessments moving forward.

There is zero doubt the Bidens were running a criminal influence operation and made millions doing so.
 
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thethe said:
Amazing - Doesn't matter how 'reasonable' they present themselves as. They'll always believe the original lies and let that dictate their assessments moving forward.

There is zero doubt the Bidens were running a criminal influence operation and made millions doing so.
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I’m not clinging to anything. There’s still a lot of conjecture, assumptions and reliance on bad actors to believe this claim is without doubt. I honestly don’t care if Joe Biden spent his remaining year behind bars, I don’t particularly like the guy or his family. But you have this fun habit of claiming that anything you believe is not only true, but so true that only a fool could disagree, but reality is often more nuanced than this.
 
mqt said:
I’m not clinging to anything. There’s still a lot of conjecture, assumptions and reliance on bad actors to believe this claim is without doubt. I honestly don’t care if Joe Biden spent his remaining year behind bars, I don’t particularly like the guy or his family. But you have this fun habit of claiming that anything you believe is not only true, but so true that only a fool could disagree, but reality is often more nuanced than this.
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What is the nuance of legal formation docs with CCP holding companies and the wiring of moneys to Biden family members?

What is the nuance of Hunter himself saying 5% fo the 'Big Guy'?

What is the nuance of useless POS Hunter getting 83K a month to sit on an energy board?

Surely you can't be this obtuse....
 
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Its all been a scam for decades.

Uni party is about to be jettisoned
 
thethe said:
What is the nuance of legal formation docs with CCP holding companies and the wiring of moneys to Biden family members?

What is the nuance of Hunter himself saying 5% fo the 'Big Guy'?

What is the nuance of useless POS Hunter getting 83K a month to sit on an energy board?

Surely you can't be this obtuse....
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Literally all of this comes down to whether or not Joe Biden participated in these schemes. People throwing money at the Bidens in the hopes of gaining influence does not entail that Joe Biden granted that influence. This would be like me stating any important person who stayed at a Trump property for the past 8 years was evidence of Trump doing something illegal.
 
mqt said:
Literally all of this comes down to whether or not Joe Biden participated in these schemes. People throwing money at the Bidens in the hopes of gaining influence does not entail that Joe Biden granted that influence. This would be like me stating any important person who stayed at a Trump property for the past 8 years was evidence of Trump doing something illegal.
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Participated?

He phoned into meetings. Hunter said he needed 10% for the "Big Guy"

Its a shame this is what the left has come to.

And no its not the same - Trump is actually providing a service that would be leveraged without any poliical power. But of course you would use the 'BUT TRUMP' excuse. Pathetic.
 
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mqt does a great job at displaying the task we have at hand the next few decades. Just absolute brain dysfunction in believing the lies he believes.

Thats why we had to move to the center on many issues just so we can win. Then with power we undo the decades of damage the left has inflicted on the population.

Imagine being a person of reasonable intelligence and still cash doubt as to whether Joe Biden participated in this foreign influence peddling? Sheesh....
 
thethe said:
Participated?

He phoned into meetings. Hunter said he needed 10% for the "Big Guy"

Its a shame this is what the left has come to.

And no its not the same - Trump is actually providing a service that would be leveraged without any poliical power. But of course you would use the 'BUT TRUMP' excuse. Pathetic.
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Here are 2 things that are damning besides the five witnesses saying Joe is the Big Guy

1) Why does Biden use several pseudonyms while e-mailing Hunter and his associates?

2) Hunter threatens some uncooperative clients by saying he'll sic his dad on them if they don't play ball and then soon gets the money afterward.

There is zero chance Joe is innocent.
 
sturg33 said:
It was my understanding that your disdain for politicians like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan was for their willingness to do the above
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How did they move exactly to the center?

It was the same trash 1980's republican economics
 
Garmel said:
Here are 2 things that are damning besides the five witnesses saying Joe is the Big Guy

1) Why does Biden use several pseudonyms while e-mailing Hunter and his associates?

2) Hunter threatens some uncooperative clients by saying he'll sic his dad on them if they don't play ball and then soon gets the money afterward.

There is zero chance Joe is innocent.
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Only a brain warped partisan doesn't realize JOE BIDEN is guilty.
 
Garmel said:
Here are 2 things that are damning besides the five witnesses saying Joe is the Big Guy

1) Why does Biden use several pseudonyms while e-mailing Hunter and his associates?

2) Hunter threatens some uncooperative clients by saying he'll sic his dad on them if they don't play ball and then soon gets the money afterward.

There is zero chance Joe is innocent.
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But you must recognize this is circumstantial evidence and not something that would hold up in court. A noted cocaine addict saying something to a company so that they will give him money just isn’t proof of any action taken by Joe Biden.

What you guys are failing to understand is that I don’t hold the opinion that Joe Biden is innocent of any of this. Republican lawmakers in Congress have failed to prove that Joe Biden broke the law in these business dealings. I’m happy to have them investigate further, and if evidence is provided that Biden committed the crimes they claim he did, support holding him accountable for having done so. I also frankly don’t doubt that Joe Biden hasn’t spent decades abusing his power. But at the end of the day, you have to prove these things happened, not speculate. So far House Republicans have failed to do this, perhaps in part because our corruption and campaign finance laws are toothless. If we don’t improve upon these laws, there’s a ton of ****ery that can happen because the line between legal and illegal conduct is both weak and easy to circumvent.
 
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