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57Brave said:
You guys clamored for policies and interviews... well, I'd bet a dollar next to a donut, 3 of you haven't taken the time to hear a word she said

Or, did she give more detail in 45 days than Trump in in 8 years.
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https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/read-transcript-kamala-harris-msnbc-interview-rcna172771

RUHLE: Madam Vice President, you just laid out your economic vision for the future.

HARRIS: Yes.

RUHLE: But, still, there are lots of Americans who don’t see themselves in your plans. For those who say, these policies aren’t for me, what do you say to them?

HARRIS: Well, if you are hardworking, if you have the dreams and the ambitions and the aspirations of what I believe you do, you’re in my plan.

I have to tell you, I really love and am so energized by what I know to be the spirit and character of the American people. We have ambition. We have aspirations. We have dreams. We can see what’s possible. We have an incredible work ethic.

But not everyone has the access to the opportunities that allow them to achieve those things. But we don’t lack for those things. But not everyone gets handed stuff on a silver platter. And so my vision for the economy — I call it an opportunity economy — is about making sure that all Americans, wherever they start, wherever they are, have the ability to actually achieve those dreams and those ambitions, which include, for middle-class families, just being able to know that their hard work allows them to get ahead, right?

I think we can’t and we shouldn’t aspire to have an economy that just allows people to get by. People want to do more than just get by. They want to get ahead. And I come from the middle class.

Look, my mother raised my sister and me. She worked hard. She saved up. By the time I was a teenager, she was able to buy our first home. And homeownership for too many people in our country now is elusive. You know, gone is the day of everyone thinking they could actually live the American dream.

So part of my vision for the economy is, let’s deal with some of the everyday challenges that people face and address them with commonsense solutions, such as affordable housing.

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Yes, chock full of details. Not a single solitary one! We get the ol' growing up middle class routine, and a word salad...playing all the usual hits.
 
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57Brave said:
You guys clamored for policies and interviews... well, I'd bet a dollar next to a donut, 3 of you haven't taken the time to hear a word she said

Or, did she give more detail in 45 days than Trump in in 8 years.
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RUHLE: And one of the main problems are regulations and rules, strict, strict rules at a local level.

How does the federal government cut through all that red tape and get down to, I don’t know, the suburbs of Pittsburgh and say, we’re going to have to build some affordable housing here? How do you connect the two?

HARRIS: So, you’re absolutely right.

So, across our country, people rightly are concerned about the cost of housing. So it’s homeownership, to your point. We need more supply. That is, without any question, part of the solution.

Creating more supply under my plan includes creating tax incentives to work with the private sector and homebuilders. Part of my goal and the plan would be to create three million new housing units for rent and for ownership by the end of my first term. It includes also what we must do to cut red tape. You’re absolutely right.

It takes far too long and there’s too much bureaucracy associated with homebuilding. And I say that as a devout public servant. I know that we have to reduce the red tape and speed up what we need to do around building. And that is going to require working from the federal level with state and local governments.

And it’s going to be different in different places, depending on the needs of that community, the needs of that local government, that municipality, but working in consultation and coordination and also around incentives that we can create.

For example, some of the work is going to be through what we do in terms of giving benefits and assistance to state and local governments around transit dollars, and looking holistically at the connection between that and housing, and looking holistically at the incentives we in the federal government can create for local and state governments to actually engage in planning in a holistic manner that includes prioritizing affordable housing for working people.

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More non-answering
 
57Brave said:
You guys clamored for policies and interviews... well, I'd bet a dollar next to a donut, 3 of you haven't taken the time to hear a word she said

Or, did she give more detail in 45 days than Trump in in 8 years.
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RUHLE: Can I ask you about tariffs?

Because you just mentioned it. It’s not just with one company. Donald Trump’s sort of big idea is this broad-based tariffs across the board. You and many others have said that would be, not only disastrous, but it would be a direct tax on the American consumer.

HARRIS: It would be a sales tax on the American people that — the independent economists have already measured this by his — the sales tax of doing a 20 percent tariffs on all imports that he has described, would be a 20 percent sales tax, in essence, on basic necessities for the average American worker, average American family, totaling almost $4,000 a year.

That is no small matter. Here in Pittsburgh, when I’m talking to a group of folks who work here, who live here, and when they hear it might be $4,000 more a year for them, look, people can’t afford that.

RUHLE: But tariffs aren’t unique to President Trump. President Biden has tariffs in place. He’s actually looking to potentially implement more. Where do you come out on, is there a good tariff, a bad tariff?

HARRIS: Well, part of it is, you don’t just throw around the idea of just tariffs across the board. And that’s part of the problem with Donald Trump.

I — frankly, I’m going to — and I say this in all sincerity. He’s just not very serious about how he thinks about some of these issues. And one must be serious and have a plan, and a real plan, that’s not just about some talking point ending in an exclamation at a political rally, but actually putting the thought into, what will be the return on the investment, what will be the economic impact on everyday people

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Again, doesn't answer the question asked
 
57Brave said:
You guys clamored for policies and interviews... well, I'd bet a dollar next to a donut, 3 of you haven't taken the time to hear a word she said

Or, did she give more detail in 45 days than Trump in in 8 years.
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RUHLE: You have said you want to take this on by going after those who engage in price gouging.

HARRIS: Yes.

RUHLE: But as somebody who supports free markets, who’s a capitalist, how do you go after price gouging without implementing price controls?

Because, once we get in this zone, people start to get worried and they say, I don’t know what she stands for.

HARRIS: So, just to be very frank, I am never going to apologize for going after companies and corporations that take advantage of the desperation of the American people.

And, as attorney general, I saw this happen. In the midst of an emergency, whether it be an extreme weather event or even the pandemic, we saw it, where those few companies, not the majority, not most, but those few companies that would take advantage of the desperation of people and jack up prices.

Yes, I’m going to go after them. Yes, I’m going to go after them. And that is part of a much more comprehensive plan on what we can do to bring down the cost of living, including housing, including the everyday needs of the American people.

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Not an answer to the question asked.
 
57Brave said:
You guys clamored for policies and interviews... well, I'd bet a dollar next to a donut, 3 of you haven't taken the time to hear a word she said

Or, did she give more detail in 45 days than Trump in in 8 years.
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RUHLE: And expanding that child tax credit, or you mentioned housing before, giving that extra money for a first home, if you can’t raise corporate taxes, or if GOP takes control of the Senate, where do you get the money to do that?

Do you still go forward with those plans and borrow?

HARRIS: Well, but we’re going to have to raise corporate taxes. And we’re going to have to raise — we’re going to have to make sure that the biggest corporations and billionaires pay their fair share.

That’s just it. It’s about paying their fair share. I am not mad at anyone for achieving success, but everyone should pay their fair share. And it is not right that the teachers and the firefighters that I meet every day across our country are paying a higher tax than the richest people in our country.

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Perhaps the most egregious of all the non-answers. Rhule literally asks what do you do if you CAN'T raise taxes due to an uncooperative Congress, and Harris' response is "well but we're going to have to." Huh?
 
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What, no vague random tarriffs or the plight of furniture refinishers ?

A 25 minute interview in which she gave the same answer she's been giving since mid August .

2020l !
 
57Brave said:
What, no vague random tarriffs
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RUHLE: But tariffs aren’t unique to President Trump. President Biden has tariffs in place. He’s actually looking to potentially implement more. Where do you come out on, is there a good tariff, a bad tariff?

HARRIS: Well, part of it is, you don’t just throw around the idea of just tariffs across the board. And that’s part of the problem with Donald Trump.

I — frankly, I’m going to — and I say this in all sincerity. He’s just not very serious about how he thinks about some of these issues. And one must be serious and have a plan, and a real plan, that’s not just about some talking point ending in an exclamation at a political rally, but actually putting the thought into, what will be the return on the investment, what will be the economic impact on everyday people.

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Yes, vague random tariffs. The Biden/Harris administration kept most of Trump's tariffs in place and enacted a host of new tariffs on their own. So again, the question for Harris is - are there good tariffs and bad tariffs? I can only assume she thinks tariffs hurt consumers if they're enacted by Trump, and help consumers if they're enacted by her. Because she's giving us nothing else here to work with.

57Brave said:
A 25 minute interview in which she gave the same answer she's been giving since mid August .
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The same non-answers she's been giving since August, yes. I know she was raised in a middle class family around folks who cared about their lawns. Not much else. The incoherence on tariffs. The unaddressed apparent flip-flop on fracking. The new flop-flop on the filibuster - she once signed onto a letter as a Senator, urging to protect it, now she'd happily destroy it to codify Roe. Her apparent flip-flop on the border wall. She's been all over the place on guns. A lack of any real substance on a laundry list of issues.

Here's one question she hasn't been asked (and certainly hasn't answered) that I'd love to get a response on:

Back in February, Harris condemned Robert Hur's characterization of Biden's memory/cognitive faculties in his special report, saying it "could not be more wrong on the facts and was clearly politically motivated." Yet only a few months later, she was replacing Biden as the (D) nominee when it was clear he lacked the mental fitness to continue a campaign and serve four more years. So when did she realize Biden was no longer fit?
 
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Im sure if you mailed your question you'd get a rapid full throated response.

Why do I get the sense this your first POTUS election cycle ?

Oh that's right Trump broke the USPS over mail in ballots.

Did you know the eariest USPS was begun by Ben Franklin?

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I have seen up close education for hire.

And see it for what it stripped to the bone is.

A .oney grab.

Everything eventually returns to the mean.

Educating the children of a 300M + population is far more complicated than those selling you School Choice are willing to let on.

Ever looked undervthe hood of

Amway ?
 
So there is a big pot of money these people are salavating over. And dying , ala Trump, to get their chubby little fingers on

Please tell me how she distinguished herself as Sec. Of Education.

I am willing to be convinced, but on this topic I been waiting close to 50 years.

Or when I first considered a private educatiom for mine.

It wasnt the cost it was. And here we are again, the charactor ofvthe people selling the produst.

Amway with books rather than cheap smelly soap
 
sturg33 said:
So, no.
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People do not now and never have dealt in the level of specifics you so love in this level of politics.

There just isnt time.

Like I asked a poster earlier, is this your first POTUS election.

Shoot, I forgot, for $4 000 you voted for Trump in 20. , and before that some 3rd party that has come and gone and before that for a guy that voted against Hurricane relief for his very own constituants.

Relief. Might want to research the meaning of that wotrd.

Even the conotation plumbing. As in " relief valve "

you might wanna sit this out
 
57Brave said:
People do not now and never have dealt in the level of specifics you so love in this level of politics.

There just isnt time.

Like I asked a poster earlier, is this your first POTUS election.

Shoot, I forgot, for $4 000 you voted for Trump in 20. , and before that some 3rd party that has come and gone and before that for a guy that voted against Hurricane relief for his very own constituants.

Relief. Might want to research the meaning of that wotrd.

Even the conotation plumbing. As in " relief valve "

you might wanna sit this out
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Sorry... earlier you were criticizing the right for not listening to Harris' interviews. Aces posted her words verbatim. Are you able to show where she offered a specific?

Should we expect nothing specific from her?
 
57Brave said:
People do not now and never have dealt in the level of specifics you so love in this level of politics.
There just isnt time.
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Baloney. She is either unable or unwilling to answer relatively simple questions or clarify contradictions in things she’s previously said. Why do you think some tariffs are good and others bad? Will you use deficit spending to pay for your homebuyer tax credit if Congress doesn’t pass a tax increase? What made you change your position on fracking? When did you realize Biden was unfit to continue running/serve four more years.

None of these require some kind of unreachable level of detail to answer. She just can’t or won’t, maybe because enough voters simply don’t care. And she has a media willing to give her cover.

Harris voters would be better off sticking to the line that she doesn’t have to say anything and shouldn’t say anything because at the end of the day she isn’t Trump and that’s enough. ****, Stephanie Rhule said this ulmost verbatim on Bill Maher, then shockingly she is the one granted the interview! I personally don’t agree with the argument, but every time she opens her mouth, I’m more convinced it’s the best argument (D) has.
 
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