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Runnin said:
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Mike Pence stuck his head up this week to take a whack at Trumpism, urging Republicans to reject “protectionist tariffs” and “isolationism” while “unashamedly” recommitting to anti-abortion positions.

It’s a sign of what he’s up to behind the scenes as well.

The former vice president is laying the groundwork for a party that could move on after the election from Donald Trump’s populism and protectionism. Sometimes that means being a rare voice of public dissent, at other times it means quietly trying to recruit allies to his cause who might be more willing to join him on specific policy or political fights.

“We’re trying to plant a flag for conservatism and believe that many of our traditional conservative groups have become far more enamored with populism these days and walked away from those principles,” Marc Short, Pence’s longtime advisor, told Semafor.
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You.... You think Mike Pence is actually relevant? As someone who thought Pence got treated incredibly unfair after Biden won, even I realize Mike Pence is about as relevant as Al Gore in politics right now. Probably much worse.

He was fairly irrelevant before he became VP. Most didn't know who he was (like Walz). He didn't suddenly become the face of the old Republican guard because he refused to obey Trump.
 
For those curious in Harris' economic proposals they are not hard to find:

1) A $$6000 tax credit for the first year of a child.

2) $25k in assistance for first time homebuyers.

3) Increasing by a factor of 10 the tax credit for starting a business.

4) More Biden style industrial policy targeted at industries such as chips manufacturing and renewable energy..
 
Runnin said:
Have you been paying attention to what her opponent is saying and has said? Have you read about Project 25?

She and her team have been smart to not be overly specific in this media environment. Her goal is to win the election and protect democracy from those who are trying to dismantle the rule of law and turn the country into Christian Russia. It isn't to offer a granular, detailed plan of everything she plans to do. She was thrust into this position suddenly. Do you remember that??? She did not have a group of radicals writing a detailed plan of what she would do if/when she took office, like DJT did with the Project 25 team.

Project 25 is ALL you need to know about this election.
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I do remember that! And one of the many unasked/unanswered questions to Harris is - when did you realize Biden was mentally unfit to continue running a campaign and serve four more years?

Because only a few months prior to Harris taking over, the publicly condemned Robert Hur’s report questioning Biden’s memory/fitness, calling it wrong on the facts and politically motivated.

Do you remember that??

Apparently she knows as much about her own policies as you know about “project 25.”
 
acesfull86 said:
I do remember that! And one of the many unasked/unanswered questions to Harris is - when did you realize Biden was mentally unfit to continue running a campaign and serve four more years?

Because only a few months prior to Harris taking over, the publicly condemned Robert Hur’s report questioning Biden’s memory/fitness, calling it wrong on the facts and politically motivated.

Do you remember that??

Apparently she knows as much about her own policies as you know about “project 25.”
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Yeah. Her reaction to Hur's report certainly evince a certain willingness to spin things favorably in favor of the president she was serving. Certainly troublesome. The extent of how troublesome will vary across reasonable people.
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch we have a presidential ticket trying mightily to provoke a pogrom against dark-skinned immigrants. Mercifully they have been ineffective.
 
nsacpi said:
Yeah. Her reaction to Hur's report certainly evince a certain willingness to spin things favorably in favor of the president she was serving. Certainly troublesome. The extent of how troublesome will vary across reasonable people.
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She was either lying about the mental fitness of the sitting POTUS or was complicit in covering it up. Seems important
 
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sturg33 said:
It's just wild to me that people on the right can consistently, and most of the time, intelligently debate different policies and specifics

People on the left simply cannot do it.
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This is a real thing. Or thang.

Of course, it won’t stop one of our friends on the left from parachuting into a debate, selectively reading what they want to read, conveniently ignoring what you’ve posted everywhere else (that would take the legs out from under their weak ad hominem attack).
 
nsacpi said:
Meanwhile back at the ranch we have a presidential ticket trying mightily to provoke a pogrom against dark-skinned immigrants. Mercifully they have been ineffective.
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Illegal immigrants is the words you're looking for. What color their skin is matters not.
 
Carp said:
Illegal immigrants is the words you're looking for. What color their skin is matters not.
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The Haitians in Springfield are legal.

Can anybody tell me why they are supposed to be eating pets? Are the dark skinned migrants starving or are they just wild and feral and eat anything they can get their hands on? That's really scary either way.
 
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acesfull86 said:
I do remember that! And one of the many unasked/unanswered questions to Harris is - when did you realize Biden was mentally unfit to continue running a campaign and serve four more years?

Because only a few months prior to Harris taking over, the publicly condemned Robert Hur’s report questioning Biden’s memory/fitness, calling it wrong on the facts and politically motivated.

Do you remember that??

Apparently she knows as much about her own policies as you know about “project 25.”
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I suspect many of you MAGA pretenders will privately cast your vote to save the Republican party and the democracy.

Here you can read all about the right wing radical fantasies. PDF of Project 2025.
 
Runnin said:
I suspect many of you MAGA pretenders will privately cast your vote to save the Republican party and the democracy.

Here you can read all about the right wing radical fantasies. PDF of Project 2025.
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acesfull86 said:
This is a real thing. Or thang.

Of course, it won’t stop one of our friends on the left from parachuting into a debate, selectively reading what they want to read, conveniently ignoring what you’ve posted everywhere else (that would take the legs out from under their weak ad hominem attack).
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15 minutes later, already aging well
 
Runnin said:
The Haitians in Springfield are legal.

Can anybody tell me why they are supposed to be eating pets? Are the dark skinned migrants starving or are they just wild and feral and eat anything they can get their hands on? That's really scary either way.
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Are they? Are they really ? You checked them?
 
Runnin said:
The Haitians in Springfield are legal.

Can anybody tell me why they are supposed to be eating pets? Are the dark skinned migrants starving or are they just wild and feral and eat anything they can get their hands on? That's really scary either way.
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Are they? Are they really ? You checked them?
 
just so there is no misunderstanding, I'm relieved at Trump's failure to deliver in his first term

venality tempered by incompetence should be the first line of his obituary
 
nsacpi said:
"Trump has just thoroughly failed to deliver."

---JD Vance (February, 2020)

Remarkable. Remarkable that someone who lies so baldly and badly in public has a knack for truthiness in private.

https://wapo.st/3ZCrnWt
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One of the weirdest VP campaigns I can ever remember. Maybe he salvages things with a good debate (he seems sharp so he just might!), but geez he’s been a relatively easy target from a very willing media apparatus.

I bet if Donald had a do over he would have picked RFK
 
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