https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-budget-is-still-one-of-the-biggest-ever.html
Imagine believing Obama didn’t spend insane amounts on the military.
Also, didn’t the Republicans control the purse strings for the end of Obama’s term?
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-budget-is-still-one-of-the-biggest-ever.html
Imagine believing Obama didn’t spend insane amounts on the military.
Also, didn’t the Republicans control the purse strings for the end of Obama’s term?
nsacpi
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The defense budget rose $150 billion from 2015 to 2019.
The deficit rose by $540 billion during the same period.
It’s almost as if we were slowly winding down from an active and costly war.
cajunrevenge
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Obamas first 3 years of setting the budget.
2010- 738.018 billion - 4.92% of GDP
2011- 752.29 billion - 4.84% of GDP
2012- 725.21 billion - 4.48% of GDP
Trumps only 3 years setting the budget
2018- 682.49 billion - 3.32% of GDP
2019- 734.34 billion - 3.43% of GDP
2020- 778.23 billion - 3.74% of GDP
Who rebuilt the military exactly?
2010- 738.018 billion - 4.92% of GDP
2011- 752.29 billion - 4.84% of GDP
2012- 725.21 billion - 4.48% of GDP
Trumps only 3 years setting the budget
2018- 682.49 billion - 3.32% of GDP
2019- 734.34 billion - 3.43% of GDP
2020- 778.23 billion - 3.74% of GDP
Who rebuilt the military exactly?
Very selective of you. Now do the missing years you have there.
However did the military even survive on a paltry $633 billion? Not to mention that even at our lowest figures, the % to GDP was still higher than Trump.
I’ll be honest, I didn’t have Obama didn’t spend enough money killing middle eastern people on my Trump defense bingo card, but I probably should have.
cajunrevenge
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2013- 679.23 billion 4.05% of GDP
2014- 647.79 billion 3.70% of GDP
2015- 633.86 billion 3.44% of GDP
2016- 639.86 billion 3.42% of GDP
2017- 646.75 billion 3.31% of GDP
Almost exactly the same % of GDP spent on the military. Trumps 3 years setting the military budget was the barely higher than the % Obama spent in his last 3 years. Only 2020 for Trump eclipsed the high point in spending by Obama on the military. For comparison GWB spent only 378 billion his first year setting the budget. Obamas highest 3 years in spending was a full 1% more in terms of GDP that Trumps highest.
cajunrevenge
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I am fine with using total dollars spent. Obama spent more than Trump in their first 3 years even though Trumps years were 8 years later. Obama doubled what Bush was spending his first 3 years 8 years later. Trump just maintained Obama's spending level. We will never know what years 4 though 8 of spending would have been for Trump, that's why I dont use those years for comparison, but it was only a marginal increase from Obama's last 3 years to Trumps first 3 anyways.
Just face it, Trump lied about the state of the military..
Just face it, Trump lied about the state of the military..
Most of the job "growth" during Obama's time was jobs coming back from the recession.
cajunrevenge
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Which is the opposite of what Republicans said would happen at the time. They said Obama's policies would turn a recession into a great depression. When the economy improved instead they said "yeah well it's too slowly improving".
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
And very poorly chosen one goosed the economy by blowing a big hole in federal budget. Talk about unsustainable.
cajunrevenge
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The issue isnt arresting/prosecuting those committing the violence its using those people as an excuse to beat up and then prosecute the peaceful protesters. When cops storm into a crowd and start beating people up indiscriminately it's going to lead to violence by the protesters too. That's just fighting back.
I am personally always worried about the state executing its citizens. Getting rid of due process and applying it to new types of crime would be a pretty steep elevation.