I think you can attribute a small amount towards Trump which is what I've said from the beginning. The question is would anything have changed and you obviously know the answer to that.
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I think you can attribute a small amount towards Trump which is what I've said from the beginning. The question is would anything have changed and you obviously know the answer to that.
sturg33
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The other side of this is even if you give him a pass for the 15 days... and I tend to give him a pass... he doubled down many many times after that.
Yeah he wanted Easter, and then he backed down after pressure. He threated states that opened up earlier. These are the facts. These are mistakes. He fired those families
Yeah he wanted Easter, and then he backed down after pressure. He threated states that opened up earlier. These are the facts. These are mistakes. He fired those families
Did people lose their jobs in those countries even though they were against the lockdowns?
sturg33
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Your entire defense of Trump is "he didn't know" or "he couldn't do anything about it" or "even if he didn't fail spectacularly nothing would have been different anyway"
With all this in mind, what is he bringing to the table?
But I thought Trump by sheer force of will influence the world?
Trump pushed HCQ. Trump said we should open Easter.
Why didn't those work. You just said he needed to be bold and against the grain. Should have have sent the army in to stop the states from staying closed?
How does him knowing something impact whether the country and world shut down?
Better yet did those countries still create stimulus packages to help their people?
sturg33
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I said give him a pass. Not excuse it away.
The initial shut down was a mistake. His doubling down on it was worse. His threatening red states for opening up sooner is unforgivable
sturg33
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I don't know the economics of those states. You asked if any leaders were vocal about it.
Unfortunately, the United States leads the world... when we shut it down, nobody had any pressure not to follow suit. Our shutdown was worse than the rest of the world combined. When the "land of the free" and largest economy in the universe publicly stated that freedom amd jobs are canceled, that's all she wrote
sturg33
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If your entire defense of Trump was that he was completely powerless to stop one of the biggest humans rights assault in our country's history, then I am definitely not interested in nominating him again
The sad reality is that not only was he powerless to stop it, he was complicit and a major actor of the assault
Very strange this was not your position in real time as it was happening.
Why the change of heart? Almost like you were reprogrammed as to what was happening during this time.
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Where have I seen this before?
I expect some people not to see what’s really happening behind the scenes. Had to deal with that for the last 8 years. But for others it’s a big shock. Just a shame that desantis had his career almost taken from him because the “party” is mad the people support America first populism.
Where have I seen this before?
I expect some people not to see what’s really happening behind the scenes. Had to deal with that for the last 8 years. But for others it’s a big shock. Just a shame that desantis had his career almost taken from him because the “party” is mad the people support America first populism.
cajunrevenge
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Like you would ever even acknowledge that your lord and savior lost at anything.
cajunrevenge
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Trump did China a big favor ending the TPP. It gave a favorable trade deal to China's neighbors so they wouldnt have to be dependent on China. China went hard after the TPP with all their propaganda tools and people bought it. Thats why they want dumbasses like Trump in office.
sturg33
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When both cerno and thethe were calling from Trump to step aside for RDS a year or two ago...
Would you co sidereal yall to be uniparty anti-maga forces at that time? Or did you think you were recommending an upgrade for the maga movement?
