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sturg33 said:
I will stop calling you a cultist when you stop acting like one

This primary has been ridiculous. You used to love desantis, and I mean love him. You called for him to be president in 2024.

Now you despise him.

You claim it's bc he showed his true colors (he's shown nothing other than the same governor he has been)... but that's not true bc yall attacked him in Novemevr of 2022 BEFORE THE ELECTION.

Why would maga do that to such a great ally?

Luckily, desantis is a failure and loser so he won reelection anyway without a sweat... honestly it may have helped him that Trump turned on him when you look at the results of his hand picked candidates
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Oh I've still had only nice things to say about Desantis until he decided to pull a Hillary.

But the reality is what I said for the last months bore out to be true. Book Deal / Ukraine Flip-Flop / Citadel request to still allow CCP ownership / Hillaryism.

I'm sorry you can't handle that I was right.
 
thethe said:
Oh - So 2020 was not stolen. Wondering when you'd finally flip on that one.

Cool.
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Trump isn't the president... which is what I really care about.

But his grifters have made a **** ton of money crying about the steal... I'm sure they'd be fine if that trend continues
 
sturg33 said:
Trump isn't the president... which is what I really care about.

But his grifters have made a **** ton of money crying about the steal... I'm sure they'd be fine if that trend continues
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But Trump drove out all those 'voters' for Biden in 2020?

Were they real voters or not Sturg?
 
sturg33 said:
Well there is nothing in his actual words that I can find any issue with

- the movement has to be more than one man

- the movement has to be on principle

- if we all simply repeat the whims of one man than the movement will not last


Which of those points are you and the cult most offended by? The big alpha magadonians are a sensitive bunch of snowflakes these days. RDS must be over the target
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I'll re bump this a third time... as thethe is very upset about Ron's words.

Can thethe explain which of his statement he disagrees with?
 
thethe said:
Trump can make a calculated decision and the people can decide if they want to make him pay for those decisions. My preference is for politicians to debate.

I've said that I want him to debate because teh same things were said in 2015 "Trump will lose to all these sharp politicians" and then he embarrassed them off the stage.

But you may mock his ideas to 'transform global politicis' but a growing majority of the world agrees with him.
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I only mock because I still don’t understand what specific policies he would pursue to accomplish this goal. I’m sure he’s said something off the cuff at a political rally.

And before it’s brought up, his first term is not an acceptable answer. The world has changed far too much since 2019 what with higher interest rates, Russia, role of government in a pandemic, etc.
 
sturg33 said:
I'll re bump this a third time... as thethe is very upset about Ron's words.

Can thethe explain which of his statement he disagrees with?
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The assumption is that people support Trump because of Trump and not his policies is the error he made. And you know this but you'll continue to pretend otherwise.

Of course all of us that support Trump is ONLY because we love Trump the person. Has absolutley nothing to do with his track record as president (which you constantly praised in real time) and his policy set. IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE LOVE HIM!
 
thethe said:
But Trump drove out all those 'voters' for Biden in 2020?

Were they real voters or not Sturg?
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I dunno... o was hopeful the kraken was gonna prove this out but they let me down. A more competent Desantis would have a much better shot than relying on Rudy Guliani.

But yes I believe many votes were fake. I belive Trump received fake votes too... less than uncle Joe.

I don't know how many though. The states with shenanigans only needed a few thousand to tip the scales.

How many do you estimate were fake?
 
chop2chip said:
I only mock because I still don’t understand what specific policies he would pursue to accomplish this goal. I’m sure he’s said something off the cuff at a political rally.

And before it’s brought up, his first term is not an acceptable answer. The world has changed far too much since 2019 what with higher interest rates, Russia, role of government in a pandemic, etc.
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Yeah - Its a shame the globalists undid the many great things that Trump did but even during the pandemic he was able to accomplish things like putting pressure on the CCP and sign peace deals in the middle east.

And if Trump never had the election stolen from him mandates would not have happened and the global economy would be in a better place right now.
 
thethe said:
The assumption is that people support Trump because of Trump and not his policies is the error he made. And you know this but you'll continue to pretend otherwise.

Of course all of us that support Trump is ONLY because we love Trump the person. Has absolutley nothing to do with his track record as president (which you constantly praised in real time) and his policy set. IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE LOVE HIM!
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But his policies are worse than DeSantis... and you hate desantis but love Trump.

Seems RDS is over the target. The cult feels seen
 
sturg33 said:
I dunno... o was hopeful the kraken was gonna prove this out but they let me down. A more competent Desantis would have a much better shot than relying on Rudy Guliani.

But yes I believe many votes were fake. I belive Trump received fake votes too... less than uncle Joe.

I don't know how many though. The states with shenanigans only needed a few thousand to tip the scales.

How many do you estimate were fake?
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Million of votes were fraudulent. And the analytics bore that out when you look at period over period increase in the rate of voters in specific demographic groups. But you know all this - You just have to pretend otherwise.

I suppose you believe that Biden was more popular with the Democrats than Obama to the tune of 10+ million votes though. Makes perfect sense.
 
thethe said:
Yeah - Its a shame the globalists undid the many great things that Trump did but even during the pandemic he was able to accomplish things like putting pressure on the CCP and sign peace deals in the middle east.

And if Trump never had the election stolen from him mandates would not have happened and the global economy would be in a better place right now.
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Crying about the steal is not an answer to how he will govern and what policies he will pursue.
 
sturg33 said:
But his policies are worse than DeSantis... and you hate desantis but love Trump.

Seems RDS is over the target. The cult feels seen
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His policies are worse? To who? To you? The person that has said repeatedly on this forum that trading with the CCP is fine and dandy? You're in the minority of the party buddy.

Desantis showed his true colors and would be nothing but a mouthpiece to his big donors.
 
chop2chip said:
Crying about the steal is not an answer to how he will govern and what policies he will pursue.
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His policies would be in line with what he had during his first presidency which was a resounding success.

Once we get the globalists dogs out of power that launched a coup in the Ukraine and goaded Putin for a year to invade then the war will be over faster than many can imagine. No - Not 24 hours but very fast.

Then it will be about rebuiding relations with Russia/India so we can go after the real enemy.
 
The most apparent steal WAS and still is the FBI silencing the laptop as fake Russian propaganda at election time.

That was the largest voter fraud operation we have proof of ….

And I think it cost Trump the re-election. But chops right - the worlds changed a lot
 
thethe said:
His policies would be in line with what he had during his first presidency which was a resounding success.

Once we get the globalists dogs out of power that launched a coup in the Ukraine and goaded Putin for a year to invade then the war will be over faster than many can imagine. No - Not 24 hours but very fast.

Then it will be about rebuiding relations with Russia/India so we can go after the real enemy.
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Awesome. I would love to hear Trump answer that question and not thethe, unless you’re also running for president
 
thethe said:
Million of votes were fraudulent. And the analytics bore that out when you look at period over period increase in the rate of voters in specific demographic groups. But you know all this - You just have to pretend otherwise.

I suppose you believe that Biden was more popular with the Democrats than Obama to the tune of 10+ million votes though. Makes perfect sense.
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But how many millions? What is the number?

Did Trump benefit from any fake ones?

I don't believe Biden was more popular than Obama but I also.dont believe Trump was 12M more popular than Trump 2016. Voter turnout exploded because a president allowed a tyrannical scientist to shut down the country
 
Tapate50 said:
The most apparent steal WAS and still is the FBI silencing the laptop as fake Russian propaganda at election time.

That was the largest voter fraud operation we have proof of ….

And I think it cost Trump the re-election. But chops right - the worlds changed a lot
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The world appeared to be in shambles when Trump won in 2016 as well - He did wonders in three short years till the globalists released their plandemic.
 
thethe said:
His policies are worse? To who? To you? The person that has said repeatedly on this forum that trading with the CCP is fine and dandy? You're in the minority of the party buddy.

Desantis showed his true colors and would be nothing but a mouthpiece to his big donors.
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Yes. His policies are worse across the board, unless you are a leftist, of course
 
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