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thethe said:
So people saying things on news shows are reflective of attempts by the administration to suppress inspection?

This is the best you';ve got?

WOW
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Who fought to suppress any and all investigation into Russian meddling in the election? By the point of the investigation it was too late to overturn the winner by any means other than impeachment which would have required a significant amount of Republicans to vote for it which was never going to happen no matter what they found. You can say what you want but even Republicans admitted Russia helped Trump in 2016. It would have been just as wrong to overturn the results based on that as it would be for your flimsy voter fraud claims. Only if Trump was a willing participant would it have made any difference and even if that was proven you people still wouldnt have been okay with reversing the election results.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Who fought to suppress any and all investigation into Russian meddling in the election? By the point of the investigation it was too late to overturn the winner by any means other than impeachment which would have required a significant amount of Republicans to vote for it which was never going to happen no matter what they found. You can say what you want but even Republicans admitted Russia helped Trump in 2016. It would have been just as wrong to overturn the results based on that as it would be for your flimsy voter fraud claims. Only if Trump was a willing participant would it have made any difference and even if that was proven you people still wouldnt have been okay with reversing the election results.
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You mean the phony investigation that found that it was the McCain R's and D's that conspired to make up BS?
 
thethe said:
10+ people?
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I have more than 10 family members who fit that description. My grandma was in an assisted living facility at the time and I could have dropped off ballots for her and some of the other residents. You are grasping at straws. For all we know a person stuffing a ballot box could have been dropping off fraudulent ballots for Trump. I have shown no less than 20 examples of Trump supporters submitting fraudulent ballots. That still wouldnt have justified overturning the election for Biden if Trump won.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I have more than 10 family members who fit that description. My grandma was in an assisted living facility at the time and I could have dropped off ballots for her and some of the other residents. You are grasping at straws. For all we know a person stuffing a ballot box could have been dropping off fraudulent ballots for Trump. I have shown no less than 20 examples of Trump supporters submitting fraudulent ballots. That still wouldnt have justified overturning the election for Biden if Trump won.
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Oh you are dropping off for 'Other Residents' not in your family? That sounds illegal.

And that's your exception?

Please show your examples of Trump supporters injecting fraudalent ballots. I know which ones you are talking about so lets see you bring a point to the table.
 
thethe said:
You mean the phony investigation that found that it was the McCain R's and D's that conspired to make up BS?
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Oh, my mistake, I forgot every Republican who says something you dont like is in a conspiracy with Democrats to thwart Trump. Even the ones that voted for him and supported him 98% of the time. All just part of the long con. Get a grip dude.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Oh, my mistake, I forgot every Republican who says something you dont like is in a conspiracy with Democrats to thwart Trump. Even the ones that voted for him and supported him 98% of the time. All just part of the long con. Get a grip dude.
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No it was just a 3+ year report that showed nothing.
 
thethe said:
Oh you are dropping off for 'Other Residents' not in your family? That sounds illegal.

And that's your exception?

Please show your examples of Trump supporters injecting fraudalent ballots. I know which ones you are talking about so lets see you bring a point to the table.
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https://www.clevescene.com/news/sha...ter-fraud-in-2020-and-2022-elections-42603942


https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...ts-to-voter-fraud-after-casting-dead-mothers/


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-trump-florida-vote-fraud-b1976344.html


https://apnews.com/article/ff66406dad8cf2fcb6815d0aa14545b3


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...harge-voting-twice-november-election-n1271985


https://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-dead-wife-to-voter-fraud-2020-election-2021-10


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/c...lection-ballot-dead-wife/stories/202101290136
 
thethe said:
No it was just a 3+ year report that showed nothing.
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If only there was a place where we could hash out fact from fiction and get a legal remedy for election fraud. Your side keeps losing there so you try to subvert the election through means that dont require facts and evidence. There just as much truth to Russia helping Trump as there is voter fraud.
 
Theres a very small part of me that wants Trump to win just so that you can see that all this voter fraud **** by Trump goes out the window if he wins. There will be no investigations or audits if he has the power to prevent it. You can take that to the bank. This is all just an attempt to rig the election. Either Trump wins or its fraud in which case Trump should be declared the winner. The next election is a year away and everyone knows your side will repeat the same BS voter fraud ****. Theres no real point in arguing with someone who will never under any circumstances admit Trump lost.
 
cajunrevenge said:
https://www.clevescene.com/news/sha...ter-fraud-in-2020-and-2022-elections-42603942


https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...ts-to-voter-fraud-after-casting-dead-mothers/


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-trump-florida-vote-fraud-b1976344.html


https://apnews.com/article/ff66406dad8cf2fcb6815d0aa14545b3


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...harge-voting-twice-november-election-n1271985


https://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-dead-wife-to-voter-fraud-2020-election-2021-10


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/c...lection-ballot-dead-wife/stories/202101290136
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Two big differences. These are double votes for themselves or a dead relative.

They were rightfully prosecuted for their crimes

Then of course the mules were doing this with 10-20-30-etc ballots and none have been prosecuted.

Thanks for feeding me exactly what I was expecting.
 
The difference is a harvested ballot is still a legal vote that counts whereas these were illegal votes. Heck, you cant even prove these alleged ballot harvesters werent Trump supporters and the ballots they put in werent for Trump.
 
cajunrevenge said:
The difference is a harvested ballot is still a legal vote that counts whereas these were illegal votes. Heck, you cant even prove these alleged ballot harvesters werent Trump supporters and the ballots they put in werent for Trump.
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So you don't know if the harvesters where Trump supporters (LOLOLOL) but you know the harvested ballot was a legal vote?

Can you explain how?
 
I am talking about the harvested ballot not being illegal simply because it was dropped off by someone other than the voter. Courts have ruled that even where harvesting is illegal, as long as the ballot was filled out by the actual voter it still counts. It could still potentially be an invalid vote as could literally any vote. Technically Trump's own vote was illegal because he is not a resident of Florida. He listed Maralago as his residency while the property is specifically not allowed to be used as a residency because of a deal he agreed to in order to pay less in taxes.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I am talking about the harvested ballot not being illegal simply because it was dropped off by someone other than the voter. Courts have ruled that even where harvesting is illegal, as long as the ballot was filled out by the actual voter it still counts. It could still potentially be an invalid vote as could literally any vote. Technically Trump's own vote was illegal because he is not a resident of Florida. He listed Maralago as his residency while the property is specifically not allowed to be used as a residency because of a deal he agreed to in order to pay less in taxes.
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No - Not every vote can be invalid (aside from your absurd exception). When you vote in person with voter ID that is your vote and it is legal.

ANY HARVESTED BALLOT CANNOT BE CONFIRMED IF IT IS LEGAL OR NOT WITHOUT ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES. Its the whole point to the claim that is being made.

Can you show me any efforts that were made to ensure harvested ballots were in fact legal?

But it was amusing watching you twist yourself up when you realized what logical fallacy you were spewing.
 
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thethe said:
Oh you are dropping off for 'Other Residents' not in your family? That sounds illegal.

And that's your exception?

Please show your examples of Trump supporters injecting fraudalent ballots. I know which ones you are talking about so lets see you bring a point to the table.
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I wouldn't believe anything Cajun says anyway. His track record of lying is quite impressive.
 
Garmel said:
I wouldn't believe anything Cajun says anyway. His track record of lying is quite impressive.
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Well - Its tough to take someone seriously when they say something like you don' know if the Harvestors are Trump supporters or not (TRUE - But still laughable) and yet at the same time knows all those ballots were legal.

This is why when you press the 'Election steal deniers' they eventually run out of stupid **** to say. The amount of evidence that the 2020 election was stolen is overwhelming. But when you have a eGOP that helps the steal (think Ducy/Kemp here) its hard to gain any traction to righting the wrong.
 
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