2024 Field

Hmm - when will we see all that momentum in Iowa?

What a farse this campaign has been. When RDS is finally out we will see his disgusting influencer army continue to trash Trump because that was always the plan.

Not really. He has done really well imo. The debate was a large W against the biggest name in the D category. He made him look like a joke.

Trump is the one who he bucked during covid, and Trump hates him for it. He wanted RDS to stay under his direction and he didn't and it made Trump look bad. Thats all there is to it. Only one of them made up a nickname for the other. Trump has trashed him since he planned to run. Its a joke. Instead of handling it like a respectable human, he acted like a baby about it.

EVERYONE in the race is taking out ads against RDS. That should tell you all you need.
 
Not really. He has done really well imo. The debate was a large W against the biggest name in the D category. He made him look like a joke.

Trump is the one who he bucked during covid, and Trump hates him for it. He wanted RDS to stay under his direction and he didn't and it made Trump look bad. Thats all there is to it. Only one of them made up a nickname for the other. Trump has trashed him since he planned to run. Its a joke. Instead of handling it like a respectable human, he acted like a baby about it.

EVERYONE in the race is taking out ads against RDS. That should tell you all you need.

Since he planned to run? I guess you actually believe that RDS woke up one day in late 2022 and first decided to run?

COol

Who else is there to spend money on? It was obvious RDS was going to run #2 behind Trump so why wouldn't he spend ads on him? The others were so far from Trump that had to first takedown the #2 to be relevant.

The points the RDS simp online army make are beyond stupid and can easily be reasoned out by anyone who can understand how these things work.
 
Since he planned to run? I guess you actually believe that RDS woke up one day in late 2022 and first decided to run?

COol

Why does it matter when he decided to run.

It's good he's in the race. It's good to expose trumps failures. It's to give voters an option opposed the 80 year old who is more likely to go prison than not.

You yourself called for him to run.

So why are you such ****ing baby about it?
 
Since he planned to run? I guess you actually believe that RDS woke up one day in late 2022 and first decided to run?

COol

Who else is there to spend money on? It was obvious RDS was going to run #2 behind Trump so why wouldn't he spend ads on him? The others were so far from Trump that had to first takedown the #2 to be relevant.

The points the RDS simp online army make are beyond stupid and can easily be reasoned out by anyone who can understand how these things work.

You have zero idea of when,how,why Ronnie D decided to run. Hell most of the SE wanted him to run!

Ron DeSanctimonious ‘24!!!
 
You have zero idea of when,how,why Ronnie D decided to run. Hell most of the SE wanted him to run!

Ron DeSanctimonious ‘24!!!

Oh I'm sure lots of people wanted him to run when they thought Trump wasn't going to be a factor in 24. Lets see how many actually want him when the votes start to get tallied.

But I guess you think he decided in late 22 and Trump then turned on him withoiut some inner workings happening much sooner. Cool.
 
Tapate you didn't know?

Karl Rove and Paul Ryan concocted a secret plan to puppet master RDS?

Want proof of that? Too bad! You ain't gonna get any. But it is a fact if you open your eyes!!!
 
This is the consistent them of this insane primary. Almost all of the cult agreed back in 21 and 22 that RDS was the better choice moving forward. Cerno, Poso, Pool, Alex B, thethe, the entire Trump army

All that has happened since then is RDS rack up insane victories in Florida, and a reelection slaughter, while trumps candidates lost

And all that has happened since is more Trump chaos

If this is not a cult, why did everyone change so viscerally? There is no logic to it...

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What the **** is going on with his shoes?

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There is something called context and all the things Trump did “wrong” were largely due to an unprecedented attack on our duly elected process from sore losers. Sorry you don’t understand that’s how we feel and why we don’t care for a “primary process” at all.


I think we do understand.
He may have failed in several areas due to opposition, but it's still failure.
He may be a better option than Biden, but that doesn't make him the best option.

Trump beat Hillary. He lit a fire under NATO, dramatically improved the judges we have across the country, drew lots of support to populist ideas and prioritizing the US. Great things. I'm forever grateful.

He also strengthened the Left base, proved himself to be an immature crybaby anytime anyone says anything bad about him, and lost an election to the equivalent of a potato hidden in a root cellar.

Our alternative has actually delivered on his promises, isn't fawning to far left special interest groups, has an incredible list of governing accomplishments, and turned a purple state bright red. Like a good point guard, he made others on his team more successful. As opposed to Trump's Allen Iverson style and results.

I'll vote against Democrats in the general election. They've gone too far down the DEI rabbit hole for me to do anything else. But if RDS isn't the nominee, Pubs don't really deserve to win. It's hard to reward stupid.
 
I think we do understand.
He may have failed in several areas due to opposition, but it's still failure.
He may be a better option than Biden, but that doesn't make him the best option.

Trump beat Hillary. He lit a fire under NATO, dramatically improved the judges we have across the country, drew lots of support to populist ideas and prioritizing the US. Great things. I'm forever grateful.

He also strengthened the Left base, proved himself to be an immature crybaby anytime anyone says anything bad about him, and lost an election to the equivalent of a potato hidden in a root cellar.

Our alternative has actually delivered on his promises, isn't fawning to far left special interest groups, has an incredible list of governing accomplishments, and turned a purple state bright red. Like a good point guard, he made others on his team more successful. As opposed to Trump's Allen Iverson style and results.

I'll vote against Democrats in the general election. They've gone too far down the DEI rabbit hole for me to do anything else. But if RDS isn't the nominee, Pubs don't really deserve to win. It's hard to reward stupid.

It all comes down the facade of a 'lost' election or that the lefts base hardened because of those results.

Psy Op successful.

Oh well - Can't help it that you don't understand how much of a false statement it is. Its not Trump that did those things but an established order that stole the election.

But whatever - You can think what you want or believe that someone who went right in a primary could win a general election in the modern era.

How dare Trump compain about unprecdented attacks on his presidency. These arguments are so absurd and disappointing. "TRUMP SHOULD HAVE JUST SHUTUP AND TAKEN IT LIKE A MAN!"

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I see you fell into the narrative of "RDS DID STUFF" or that he turned a purple state red without mentioning the majorities they've held in the state for quite some time and how easy it is to get things done statewide when you have majorities. But I guess its Trumps fault the Never Trump eGOP contingent like McCain did everythig they can to make sure Trump wasn't successful. WHY IS TRUMP SO BAD?!?!?!?!
 
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Glad Sununu didn't endorse RDS. Will make RDS more viable in the future if he plays his exit the right way.
 
It all comes down the facade of a 'lost' election or that the lefts base hardened because of those results.

Psy Op successful.

Oh well - Can't help it that you don't understand how much of a false statement it is. Its not Trump that did those things but an established order that stole the election.

But whatever - You can think what you want or believe that someone who went right in a primary could win a general election in the modern era.

How dare Trump compain about unprecdented attacks on his presidency. These arguments are so absurd and disappointing. "TRUMP SHOULD HAVE JUST SHUTUP AND TAKEN IT LIKE A MAN!"

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I see you fell into the narrative of "RDS DID STUFF" or that he turned a purple state red without mentioning the majorities they've held in the state for quite some time and how easy it is to get things done statewide when you have majorities. But I guess its Trumps fault the Never Trump eGOP contingent like McCain did everythig they can to make sure Trump wasn't successful. WHY IS TRUMP SO BAD?!?!?!?!

What’s the best case for Trump over RDS?
 
What’s the best case for Trump over RDS?

He appeals to a far wider crowd and is more viable in a general election (Point #1)

In the face of unpredented attacks (From both the left and right) he had the most successful presidency in decades to the point it required releasing a bioweapon to 'beat' him. (Point #2)

Want me to continue?
 
He appeals to a far wider crowd and is more viable in a general election (Point #1)

In the face of unpredented attacks (From both the left and right) he had the most successful presidency in decades to the point it required releasing a bioweapon to 'beat' him. (Point #2)

Want me to continue?

Yes please do.

Point 1 is idiotic as Trump wasn't even able to surpass Romney in vote share against the most unlikable candidate in history, and then against a walking corpse

Point 2 is more evidence to move on... as Trunp did everything the esta ligament told him to do, including sig ing the CARES Act which helped create the election integrity challenges he cries about today. Also includes the trillions in printed money which helped create the inflation we all suffer from today. Also included locking down the country and schools which we are all suffering from today. And the best part is he believes in 2023 that he did everything correct
 
He appeals to a far wider crowd and is more viable in a general election (Point #1)

I've been surprised to see you pointing at polls lately. The last time I looked, Trump fared worse in general election polls than basically anyone with a pulse and an R beside their name.
 
I've been surprised to see you pointing at polls lately. The last time I looked, Trump fared worse in general election polls than basically anyone with a pulse and an R beside their name.

Only Haley actually and thats because the electorate knows nothing about her. Those numbers will drop fast and soon.

But Trump actually runs AHEAD of down ballot in almost every state so care to re-cast your statements or show any polls that support your claim (aside from comical Haley and dare I saw gravely misunderstood numbers? - You know like I said the margin in Florida for RDS would be....)

But please tell me Jaw because if I recall correctly you mocked the idea that 2020 was a fair election. Do you now think Biden won fair and square (ignoring things like the Biden coverup by big tech)?
 
I've been surprised to see you pointing at polls lately. The last time I looked, Trump fared worse in general election polls than basically anyone with a pulse and an R beside their name.

He's laughingly posted polls on this site which show Trump doing worse than all other R candidates

But Trump has no argument on policy so it's all about POLLS for the cult
 
Only Haley actually and thats because the electorate knows nothing about her. Those numbers will drop fast and soon.

But Trump actually runs AHEAD of down ballot in almost every state so care to re-cast your statements or show any polls that support your claim (aside from comical Haley and dare I saw gravely misunderstood numbers? - You know like I said the margin in Florida for RDS would be....)

But please tell me Jaw because if I recall correctly you mocked the idea that 2020 was a fair election. Do you now think Biden won fair and square (ignoring things like the Biden coverup by big tech)?

Of course it wasn't fair. The FBI played favorites, the media did all they could, the election laws (that Trump allowed,) etc all were "unfair," without even getting into the possibility of fake ballots.

He still made plenty of unforced errors. Like handing COVID to Fauci, or telling people not to vote early. Those early ballots he told his supporters not to cast probably at least gave the Dems the Senate, if not the White House.
 
Of course it wasn't fair. The FBI played favorites, the media did all they could, the election laws (that Trump allowed,) etc all were "unfair," without even getting into the possibility of fake ballots.

He still made plenty of unforced errors. Like handing COVID to Fauci, or telling people not to vote early. Those early ballots he told his supporters not to cast probably at least gave the Dems the Senate, if not the White House.

Or telling the folks from GA not to turn out to vote in the runoff.
 
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Of course it wasn't fair. The FBI played favorites, the media did all they could, the election laws (that Trump allowed,) etc all were "unfair," without even getting into the possibility of fake ballots.

He still made plenty of unforced errors. Like handing COVID to Fauci, or telling people not to vote early. Those early ballots he told his supporters not to cast probably at least gave the Dems the Senate, if not the White House.

MAGA walking into the most obvious trap of all time should not be surprising... the deep state rolled them during the presidency and their rolling them right now.

They want Trump to be the nominee. And then they're going to lower the broomstick on him like we've never seen before. He will be a convicted felon. He will lose. And the down ballot will get slaughtered too. This is all by design.

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