2024 MLB Draft

CyYoung31 said:
I mean, yeah I get it and I don’t necessarily differ. But people acting like this is some incompetent franchise based on 3 draft picks is a little ridiculous.
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Cy..I've watched enough of this system to KNOW we've had subpar drafting recently. Barren is an understatement and people calling it out...should. Stop the faux outage that people can question this teams draft outcomes. We all know the Braves are an upper echelon team..but they can be criticized. Damn
 
50PoundHead said:
I'm not saying things are a disaster. I've simply been pointing out all season that the lower reaches of the minors are an absolute mess and the approach to the draft (along with the trading of prospects--which is legitimate use of resources) and spotty success in the international realm have contributed to that.
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I think we're mostly on the same page there, though I'm giving them a little more benefit of the doubt, between the sanctions and the quick promotions. My biggest qualm (as I lampshaded), with which I think you agree, is the seeming difficulty in developing the hit-tool of their position player prospects.
 
Deester11 said:
Cy..I've watched enough of this system to KNOW we've had subpar drafting recently. Barren is an understatement and people calling it out...should. Stop the faux outage that people can question this teams draft outcomes. We all know the Braves are an upper echelon team..but they can be criticized. Damn
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See, that's the point: barren is an overstatement, not an understatement, when it comes to the value they've been getting out of their drafts.

Perfect? No—not even top-ten. But not empty of value, as sky-is-falling posts like these presume.
 
Deester11 said:
Cy..I've watched enough of this system to KNOW we've had subpar drafting recently. Barren is an understatement and people calling it out...should. Stop the faux outage that people can question this teams draft outcomes. We all know the Braves are an upper echelon team..but they can be criticized. Damn
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Suggestion: learn to ****ing read because that’s not what’s happening.

If English isn’t your first language, then use Google translate.
 
jpx7 said:
See, that's the point: barren is an overstatement, not an understatement, when it comes to the value they've been getting out of their drafts.

Perfect? No—not even top-ten. But not empty of value, as sky-is-falling posts like these presume.
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Barren is devoid. I'll give you that. But other than 50, I'm wondering if many see these guys except a box score. If you want to use examples..I got em, but I don't waste time debating things I see anymore. If you're good with the drafts, cool. But I'm saying the methodology may be OK, the executing...average. That's not doubting AA's competency..it's fact. (In my eyes).
 
It will be interesting to see how much of the bonus pool will be expended on the Day 1 and Day 2 guys and if there is anything left to go over the Day 3 floor for any of the high school/JC guys. Carey (Rutgers commit) has a really good summer league for pre-college guys. Goode looks to be the kind of pitcher the Braves look for. Hartman is Canadian, so like Soroka, he probably hasn't played as much as American kids. Curious to see how it plays out.
 
50PoundHead said:
A few things get lost in this discussion and the main one is that Anthopoulos inherited an All-Star core of players and a deep farm system that he has used effectively augment the core and replace core players that moved on. That needs to be totally divorced from the amateur player acquisition discussion. Anthopoulos has clearly had his hits--Strider and Harris in particular--but he has spent a lot of bonus money going above slot on guys who simply have yet to turn out.
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It can't be viewed separately because it is all of one piece.

One affects the other.

The Braves have repeatedly plugged draft picks from the current regime into a championship roster and seen them perform at a competent level and traded other draft picks for contributing players.

Whether the industry overvalues Yankees and Dodgers prospects at any given point in time is besides the point.
 
The Dodgers always seem to have a good system but who have they produced that is that good? Their 3 best players they got from either FA or trade. And the guys they traded werent that good. Verdugo was decent. Buehler was good for a couple of seasons till he got hurt and Will Smith is good. But they arent what people make the Dodgers out to be when it comes to churning out players.
 
Southcack77 said:
It can't be viewed separately because it is all of one piece.

One affects the other.

The Braves have repeatedly plugged draft picks from the current regime into a championship roster and seen them perform at a competent level and traded other draft picks for contributing players.

Whether the industry overvalues Yankees and Dodgers prospects at any given point in time is besides the point.
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It's two gears in the same machine and each gear can be evaluated separately.
 
Southcack77 said:
Are you actually going to evaluate it or are you just going to look at a prospect ranking?
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I probably evaluate a lot more than you do. I'm old and have watched a lot of baseball and have taken a keen interest in player development since the 1980s. Rankings are shorthand and can be skewed by lack of depth. Braves have been able to have enough guys rise to the top to either contribute at the major league level or be useful trade pieces. But the injuries at the major league level and the regression of Arcia should show the casual fan that the upper levels of the Braves' minor leagues are pretty bare and lacking ready replacements.
 
I mean, what are we arguing about here? It should be obvious that the Braves are both good at developing talent and that they’ve had trouble filling their upper minors with meaningful positional depth lately. I don’t think these things can be argued. Both are true.
 
50PoundHead said:
I probably evaluate a lot more than you do. I'm old and have watched a lot of baseball and have taken a keen interest in player development since the 1980s. Rankings are shorthand and can be skewed by lack of depth. Braves have been able to have enough guys rise to the top to either contribute at the major league level or be useful trade pieces. But the injuries at the major league level and the regression of Arcia should show the casual fan that the upper levels of the Braves' minor leagues are pretty bare and lacking ready replacements.
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I would agree that currently our farm is not in great state. I do, however, take issue with people saying that reason is because we haven't drafted well. We've simply traded away much of that talent and we've had some earlier than anticipated graduations like Harris, Elder, AJSS, and Schwellenbach.

I won't deny the current outlook for position prospects looks dire. Hopefully some position prospects take a step forward.
 
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