2025-2026 offseason thread

The tone seems a little aggressive but I guess filling the needs of a team might be considered an average performance by a GM.

The Braves made the decision on the core awhile back. They rise and fall with it.

This is filling in the margins with the resources they have available.

If the guys they target perform to projections they've done well. That's basically the most you can hope for out of free agency.
 
Peralta would definitely put this rotation at the top of the league. I'd hate to be an opposing team going into the playoffs against a healthy Braves rotation. Ritchie or Cam would probably have to headline it unless they wanted Waldrep and they just might.

I am not sure how they could trade either for a single season of Peralta and I'm generally extremely receptive to dealing prospects.

Unless they think and know they are selling high on a Waldrop.
 
I am not sure how they could trade either for a single season of Peralta and I'm generally extremely receptive to dealing prospects.

Unless they think and know they are selling high on a Waldrop.
I don’t think Waldrep, Caminiti, Ritchie or even AJ Smith-Shawver would be on the table for just one year of Peralta. That said, if they were able to get Peralta to agree to an extension before the deal became official, then I think any of those guys could realistically be in play.

However, the Braves are always looking for a reliable No. 4 or 5 starter who’s young and has some upside, and Waldrep definitely fits that mold. Personally, I’d hang onto him.
 
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The pitching market could be a little insane after what the Orioles gave up for a mediocre Shane Baz. But I still think the Corbin Burnes trade is the basis for any Peralta trade.

In that trade, the Brewers received DL Hall, who was an aging, former 1st round SP that was losing his prospect luster. I don't believe he was ranked inside any top 100 lists anymore at the time of the trade and was being used more in a reliever role by the time of the trade. There isn't a great comp for him in our current system, but strictly from a value perspective, I don't think he had any more value at that time than Nacho does now.

The other player they received was Joey Ortiz, who was a rising infield prospect that was ML ready. Ortiz was a 50 FV prospect at that point and was FG top 50 overall. It's hard to place a current prospect comparable to that since FG hasn't provided an updated ranking on our farm. But suffice to say, that probably equates to either Fuentes or Cam. I would not be comfortable trading either for 1 year of Peralta,

I think our best bet would be a quantity over quality trade. A Nacho, Ritchie, Perdomo, and Braun sort of trade.
 
Burnes was so much better than Peralta though.

I don’t think offering more if you’re able to extend Peralta makes any sense.
This is true. Peralta has traditionally been more of a MOR pitcher, while Burnes was a legitimate ace.

But Peralta is coming off the best year of his career and the pitching market via trade has already been set.
 
This is true. Peralta has traditionally been more of a MOR pitcher, while Burnes was a legitimate ace.

But Peralta is coming off the best year of his career and the pitching market via trade has already been set.
Yeah, that Baz trade being a bit baz-nanas probably makes Peralta’s cost closer to Burnes’ than it should be.
 
That's a pretty pessimistic viewpoint/projection for a guy that averaged 3.5 fWAR over the prior 3 years to 2025. I would certainly not qualify that as a "minimum acceptable upgrade." Among players that can actually play SS, he was the best player available, either in FA or the trade market. Bichette should really not be considered a viable SS option anymore given that he MIGHT have 2 seasons left where he won't completely be awful at SS. Or he might already just be toast at SS. What realistic options exactly would you rather have brought in other than Kim? The market is what the market is, and Kim or Bichette were the only starting guys available. We took the guy who can actually play SS.

And certainly Suarez and Iggy was not the "bare minimum" acceptable upgrade for the BP. I don't see many teams signing multiple closers this off-season who had 25+ saves this year.

This is nothing more than a case of a fan looking at his team’s SS through rose colored glasses. All players are projected the same way, and all players have similar plusses and minuses. I’m sure fans from every other team say similar things about why the projection for their SS is too pessimistic.

Acquiring 2 impact BP arms was what this team needed to remain competitive. AA paid market rate for those arms. There’s nothing remarkable about those moves whatsoever. Anyone on this board with access to the Braves checkbook could have made those moves.

I say the offseason has been average at best because any GM should be able to pay market rates to fill obvious holes in the roster, and that’s someone controversial. Strange
 
I don’t think Waldrep, Caminiti, Ritchie or even AJ Smith-Shawver would be on the table for just one year of Peralta. That said, if they were able to get Peralta to agree to an extension before the deal became official, then I think any of those guys could realistically be in play.

However, the Braves are always looking for a reliable No. 4 or 5 starter who’s young and has some upside, and Waldrep definitely fits that mold. Personally, I’d hang onto him.

And it appears we’ve learned nothing about extensions.
 
Making up arguments again. Who said saying the offseason was average is controversial? I would personally put it slightly above average but whatever, I just don’t understand constantly making things up.
 
This is nothing more than a case of a fan looking at his team’s SS through rose colored glasses. All players are projected the same way, and all players have similar plusses and minuses. I’m sure fans from every other team say similar things about why the projection for their SS is too pessimistic.

Acquiring 2 impact BP arms was what this team needed to remain competitive. AA paid market rate for those arms. There’s nothing remarkable about those moves whatsoever.

I say the offseason has been average at best because any GM should be able to pay market rates to fill obvious holes in the roster, and that’s someone controversial. Strange
We've filled our main holes with some of the best options on the market.

But yeah, totally doing to bare minimum.....

And I find it hard to see how saying Kim is the best SS on the market "looking through rose colored glasses." Again, what other SS options are available, either in FA or by trade?
 
We've filled our main holes with some of the best options on the market.

But yeah, totally doing to bare minimum.....

I didn’t say “doing the bare minimum”. I said “bare minimum acceptable option”. The word acceptable is literally in the quote.

I swear the reading comprehension is silly terrible on this board sometimes.
 
If you want a true impact move, this would be the way. He's perfect and the Braves have plenty of money moving forward to extend him. I just can't see them outbidding the Mets, Dodgers or Red Sox, specifically, if it comes down to it.

That said, Sale - Peralta - Schwelly - Strider - Lopez is insane.
Ehh... he's be a good pickup if he's priced as a really good 3/fringe 2 because his stats say that's what he is. He's a 2-4 fWAR pitcher... he's not an ace or a slam dunk impact player.
 
Ehh... he's be a good pickup if he's priced as a really good 3/fringe 2 because his stats say that's what he is. He's a 2-4 fWAR pitcher... he's not an ace or a slam dunk impact player.
Agreed. Not knowing all that much about Peralta, I assumed he was some slam dunk TOR guy based on what folks have been saying in his trade rumors. Then I looked at his stats, and I thought to myself, "isn't there a pretty decent chance Waldrep is almost this good as he perfects his new arsenal?".
 
Agreed. Not knowing all that much about Peralta, I assumed he was some slam dunk TOR guy based on what folks have been saying in his trade rumors. Then I looked at his stats, and I thought to myself, "isn't there a pretty decent chance Waldrep is almost this good as he perfects his new arsenal?".
Waldrep was certainly on a higher pace production wise... just hard to say if it's 100% real yet. Peralta also was never that much of a prospect... I'm skittish with a solid 3/fringe 2 about to turn 30 with very little pedigree. I'm interested but not at an overpay level
 
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