2025-2026 offseason thread

thewupk said:
Horrendous idea
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Agreed. The time to move Murphy was 2 months ago when he had an .800+ OPS and about 3 WAR. There is zero chance we are getting equal value for Murphy at this point. So he would just be a salary dump, and with his upside that would be a terrible salary dump. We should have more than enough money to fill the holes we need to fill this off-season, so freeing up his money should not be necessary.

Let Murphy rebuild his value after this surgery, playing in a 40/60 split with Baldwin and will filling at DH occasionally . Then hopefully trade him next off-season if he has a good year.
 
Carp said:
Agreed. The time to move Murphy was 2 months ago when he had an .800+ OPS and about 3 WAR. There is zero chance we are getting equal value for Murphy at this point. So he would just be a salary dump, and with his upside that would be a terrible salary dump. We should have more than enough money to fill the holes we need to fill this off-season, so freeing up his money should not be necessary.

Let Murphy rebuild his value after this surgery, playing in a 40/60 split with Baldwin and will filling at DH a couple times a week. Then hopefully trade him next off-season if he has a good year.
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I literally said in my post I prefer to keep him. With that said, AA loves relievers and TB always has a ton of great arms. I could see them doing a deal whether I like it or not
 
If their SS wasn't in the deal for Murphy then no thanks. Only way I'd be ok with it otherwise is if AA were gonna use the money towards Tucker or a TOR SP.
 
Hudson2 said:
If their SS wasn't in the deal for Murphy then no thanks. Only way I'd be ok with it otherwise is if AA were gonna use the money towards Tucker or a TOR SP.
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I'm not saying I wouldn't take him, but Carson Williams looked pretty horrendous in his extended cup of tea in the majors this year. A 40% k rate is pretty unheard of, even for the worst of hitters.
 
Trading Murphy to the Rays is a solid plan, but the timing is not realistic. The only worse move than not trading him at the deadline would be selling low on him coming off surgery.
 
Southcack77 said:
Might get more short term value by selling Baldwin.
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You’re certainly correct, but I’d rather see the Braves continue to balance short-, medium-, and long-term goals. Baldwin looks as if he could be a cornerstone for all three.
 
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Trading Contreras for Murphy is the exact moment AA started to think he was smarter than he actually is. Hopefully he’s stopped drinking his own bath water and goes back to making solid moves.
 
Tapate50 said:
But also lose a lot of short term value
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How many prospects have we seen look good for a couple years then fall apart. I dont know if that will happen to Drake but catchers seem to have weird careers. If I am AA I atleast want to see whats out there.

And on a mostly unrelated note why does Frangraphs have Brian McCann with a 5 year stretch of being a defensive God? I dont recall him being bad or anything but dude went from above average to the greatest defensive catcher to ever exist in the span of 1 year. Brian went from +7.8 to +44. For context the best defenders now and the most recent seasons barely get over +20. Something must have changed retroactively because I know damn well McCann never had an 8 WAR season for us.
 
cajunrevenge said:
How many prospects have we seen look good for a couple years then fall apart. I dont know if that will happen to Drake but catchers seem to have weird careers. If I am AA I atleast want to see whats out there.

And on a mostly unrelated note why does Frangraphs have Brian McCann with a 5 year stretch of being a defensive God? I dont recall him being bad or anything but dude went from above average to the greatest defensive catcher to ever exist in the span of 1 year. Brian went from +7.8 to +44. For context the best defenders now and the most recent seasons barely get over +20. Something must have changed retroactively because I know damn well McCann never had an 8 WAR season for us.
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Because Fangraphs values framing exponentially, and it’s built into their defensive WAR.
 
Mac attack was an excellent framer.

Back when framing started becoming popular on fangraphs a few years before he left to go to the Yankees, they'd show gifs of catcher frames that stole strikes.

Mac had a lot of pitches that were a few inches off the plate but executed the framing so perfectly that he got called strikes.

He and Lucroy were like the most common clips of framing from that era with how many strikes they stole.

Mac had a very good sense of positioning himself relative to the umpire, and one of the underrated things about him was when he'd move his crouch slightly mid pitcher wind up where the ump probably didn't notice him moving and setting up off the plate but when he received the pitch his glove never moved as if he was setting it up there the entire time.

Now with ABS coming, the art of framing won't be as useful anymore. But the technical skills if catching Mac had compared to other catchers you'd notice big time.
 
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