2025-2026 offseason thread

[chop2chip]

If you don't think they discuss the estimated revenue share going to the players in these meetings, I'm not sure what to tell you. That's literally the main topic of labor discussions.

of course but it’s solutioned indirectly.

The players will get more money if they change qualifying offer rules, etc.

The owners will make more money instituting a luxury tax, etc

This is not the same as an explicit guaranteed revenue split which is what the other leagues have.

Which truth be told I don’t care about. The players can make as much money as they want. Same for owners. They can do whatever they want, but I want it to end up where the variance in team spending is eliminated. I promise you I really don’t care about the fight between the millionaires and billionaires.

 

[Carp]

However they have been satisfied with it for the last 100 years. The MLBPA has a good idea of revenues generated, and they know what players are paid. They've always had the same amount of information, and have always been satisfied with their revenue share. That's literally what they discuss for every new CBA.

Folks act like this is some special time where some teams outspend others. It's not.

The divide between the haves and have nots has grown wider than it ever has in my memory. Even the mid 2000 Yankees didn't have this great of a divide.

The Dodgers combined payroll between luxury tax and actual payroll is 546 million. That is more than double the actual payroll of all but 4 teams. Their 146m in luxury tax payments is more than the entire payrolls of 11 teams, and essentially the same as the Reds. There is a larger gap between the Dodgers and the Blue Jays (#5 currently) than there is the Blue Jays and the Miami (the cheapest team in the league).

 

[Metaphysicist]

What do you guys expect AA to say at this point? “Please, I am desperate to add a starter and will pay any price!.” Even if he is still working on something, his negotiating position has to be “we are fine going into the season with the guys we have.”

Frankly, my default expectation was Holmes and Lopez in the rotation because they were successful in that role prior to their injury and now they are supposed to be healthy—they were going to get that shot unless we got somebody obviously better (not just more reliable).

 

[Enscheff]

Which truth be told I don’t care about. The players can make as much money as they want. Same for owners. They can do whatever they want, but I want it to end up where the variance in team spending is eliminated. I promise you I really don’t care about the fight between the millionaires and billionaires.

OK...and I'm going to assert the owners and players, the people actually at odds in this dispute, don't care about "variance in team spending". So if they don't care about it, they aren't going to tank a season because some fans on social media care about it. Players care about being paid, and couldn't care less who pays them. Owners care about growing the value of their organizations, and that is happening despite complaints about parity.

 

[CyYoung31]

What do you guys expect AA to say at this point? “Please, I am desperate to add a starter and will pay any price!.” Even if he is still working on something, his negotiating position has to be “we are fine going into the season with the guys we have.”

Frankly, my default expectation was Holmes and Lopez in the rotation because they were successful in that role prior to their injury and now they are supposed to be healthy—they were going to get that shot unless we got somebody obviously better (not just more reliable).

I’m not taking an issue with that. I’m taking an issue with him always talking about vague deals he almost made. He does it every single time.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

I disagree with owners and players not caring about parity. I mean sure, player A wants to get paid as much as he can and if that is from a team that is already loaded then great.. And owners also care about making profits and not going in the red multiple years... but I can't see a world that both parties don't see the damage this is doing to the health of the sport and if it continues will impact them both as viewership declines.. when half the teams fan base checks out shortly after the all star break, then all this money both these entities desire will start to dry up. There is a common sense/common ground approach that can create parity, keep pay for all players up and allow the owners to grow the value of their investment.. if these billionaires can't see that, then I am not sure how they became billionaires to begin with.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

What do you guys expect AA to say at this point? “Please, I am desperate to add a starter and will pay any price!.” Even if he is still working on something, his negotiating position has to be “we are fine going into the season with the guys we have.”

Frankly, my default expectation was Holmes and Lopez in the rotation because they were successful in that role prior to their injury and now they are supposed to be healthy—they were going to get that shot unless we got somebody obviously better (not just more reliable).

I disagree with the second part. I don't want someone better than Holmes and Lopez perse... just want someone who is reliable and can eat some innings that pushes those two to the pen.. Keeping them healthy for what is hopefully a playoff run is way more important that winning a few more games because they were able to start the season as starters... we all know that those guys won't make it through the season if they are going over 100-150 innings.

 

[chop2chip]

OK...and I'm going to assert the owners and players, the people actually at odds in this dispute, don't care about "variance in team spending". So if they don't care about it, they aren't going to tank a season because some fans on social media care about it. Players care about being paid, and couldn't care less who pays them. Owners care about growing the value of their organizations, and that is happening despite complaints about parity.

Who said they’ll tank a season for the sake of parity? I’m a fan speaking from a fans perspective. I want parity therefore I hope the side whose interest is more likely to achieve that to win.

it seems like the owners will push for a salary cap and players will push for something akin to the status quo. If that’s the case, go owners I guess.

 

[msstate7]

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I disagree with the second part. I don't want someone better than Holmes and Lopez perse... just want someone who is reliable and can eat some innings that pushes those two to the pen.. Keeping them healthy for what is hopefully a playoff run is way more important that winning a few more games because they were able to start the season as starters... we all know that those guys won't make it through the season if they are going over 100-150 innings.

Have no fear, he will get Patrick Corbin or gallen. I have a feeling

 

[Enscheff]

I’m not taking an issue with that. I’m taking an issue with him always talking about vague deals he almost made. He does it every single time.

This is a fair take, and it gets old when people use the "what do you expect him to say? give up his leverage?" over and over despite that leverage never being used for anything.

Hypothetical leverage and near-deals don't help a team in any way, and those seem to be AA's specialty the last 2+ years.