EstebanBugatti
Arizona Fall Leaguer
Has a 1st place team ever fired a manager mid-season? Because Snitker more than deserves to be sent packing. This loss is 100% on his refusal to use anyone besides Freeman.
6/27 GDT: Reds at Braves
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msstate7
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Remember this? Culberson dropped the ball from inciarte at 3b which cost us a run. Camargo didn't cut ball off in 7th which cost us a run.
Snit does the dumbest crap
This is my concern and why I think Anthopoulos is in such a difficult spot. It would take a decent amount of prospect capital to get the amount of relievers that are truly needed to fix this bullpen, and I don't blame him for not wanting to give up much for rentals this year. With the large cost controllable guys are going to have, I just don't know how realistic it is to expect him to fix this bullpen this year.
msstate7
Well-known member
Snit is such a liability that there's no way I go all in this season. Make a few small moves, and go all in next season with better leadership in place
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Anyone miss Viz?
I think what we do at the deadline turns on his health.
In a scenario where he is back and healthy, we go for a situational lefty and someone to reinforce the left side of the infield.
In a scenario where Viz is on the shelf, we still go for a situational lefty. But acquiring a high leverage reliever would probably take priority over reinforcing the left side of the infield.
It's possible in either scenario we try to do all three: situational lefty, infielder and high leverage reliever.
I think what we do at the deadline turns on his health.
In a scenario where he is back and healthy, we go for a situational lefty and someone to reinforce the left side of the infield.
In a scenario where Viz is on the shelf, we still go for a situational lefty. But acquiring a high leverage reliever would probably take priority over reinforcing the left side of the infield.
It's possible in either scenario we try to do all three: situational lefty, infielder and high leverage reliever.
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msstate7
Well-known member
I'd go for Blevins and romo. Low cost guys
CrimsonCowboy
Moderator
I don’t trust Blevins, but I like the Romo idea. But with the shape the pen is in, AA may have to go after a higher priced guy, especially after the Gnats made their deal last week. Zach Britton and Darren O’Day from the Orioles are a coup,e guys I’d consider along with Jake Diekman from the Rangers.
CrimsonCowboy
Moderator
Ouch
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Britton is interesting in that he would be a high leverage guy who can also push Minter into more of a situational lefty role. That idea has been growing on me. Orioles would have to pick up a lot of his salary. But I think even a dumb FO like theirs understands the idea is to maximize the returns in terms of prospects. The tougher sell might be the owner.
Only one guy should take the honor today! Sam Freeman has no place on this team. Also the manager has cost us about 10 games this year with his terrible decision making!
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
AA keeps the guys on the team.
IMO we have 2-3 guys in AAA who deserve a shot over the Freeman, Moylan, Wisler, Simms group.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Nothing more disheartening in baseball than a bad bullpen.
Agreed. Preferably guys who aren't tired, and will try most nights.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think it is worth doing a post mortem of the 7th inning.
Viz is on the DL. Carle pitched 2 innings last night and is not avaiable. Minter and Winkler being held back for the 8th and 9th. Neither pitched last night. Tomorrow is an off day so the manager has more freedom to burn pitchers to get the platoon advantage and I think also more freedom to consider getting 4 outs from Minter and Winkler. In fact Snit brought in Winkler with 2 outs in the 7th.
The first four hitters due up are are a lefty (Schebler), a righty (Peraza), a pinch hitter for the pitcher, and a righty (Suarez).
Looking at those four hitters, who should Snit bring in to start the inning. I think Freeman is the logical choice. The realistic alternatives are Moylan, Biddle, Jackson and Parsons.
Freeman walks Schebler.
Should Snitker consider bringing a righty at this point to get Peraza?
Normally no. With an off day tomorrow? I think it would be worth at least considering. Who should it be? Probably too early for Winkler. Parsons just got called up. So either Jackson or Moylan. The scenario that has the most appeal to me is Moylan for one hitter (Peraza). After that the Reds would send up a lefty pinch hitter. I would counter with Biddle, hoping the Reds switch to a righty switch hitter, which I think they would do.
My criticism of Snitker's bullpen use in the 7th is fairly subtle. It turns on tomorrow being an off-day. Normally I would not lift Freeman so quickly, but with the off day tomorrow the manager can be more aggressive in using the pen.
At a later point in the inning, I think Snitker should have also considered lifting Freeman. This would be to bring in Winkler for Suarez. Again with the off-day tomorrow you can be more aggressive in seeking out the platoon advantage even if it means burning up a pitcher. They can rest tomorrow.
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The Os have consistently given up resources to save cash for Angelos. I find it highly unlikely they agree to eat any portion of any player's contract.
For some reason, it appears the Braves have ~$5M to play with at the deadline, despite attendance figures that are almost certainly shattering any projections they could have made prior to the season.
10 games?!?!
Wow! Imagine how good a position the Braves would be in with a competent manager!!
Orphan Black
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
+1000
needs a complete make over. Like I said i am not comfortable with anyone in the bullpen. They all have control issues. Give me 7 Jared Hughes over those guys.