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Quick update on attendance... Atlanta is drawing much better now, ranking 13th in baseball on a pre-game average... 19% higher than last year, which I think is good? but not sure what the benchmark is
 
I see what Bud Black is doing in Colorado and think "what if"...... Even though the Colorado roster is better, Bud would've made this team more of a .500 team.
 
WaitingFor2017 said:
I see what Bud Black is doing in Colorado and think "what if"...... Even though the Colorado roster is better, Bud would've made this team more of a .500 team.
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Yep, it's too bad. Firing Fredi mid season last year was just a terrible decision on multiple levels. Although knowing the Braves FO we probably would have hired Washington over Black anyway and it wouldn't have mattered.
 
sturg33 said:
Quick update on attendance... Atlanta is drawing much better now, ranking 13th in baseball on a pre-game average... 19% higher than last year, which I think is good? but not sure what the benchmark is
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Typical attendance bump for new stadiums is around 20%, so the Braves are pretty much on track.
 
msstate7 said:
Posi-brave... smh

Do you know how long before the bump goes down, year or 2?
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Not the best of relevance since they were still fairly new. But the Nats had 1.9 million the last year in their old stadium. 2.3 the first year in their new stadium and then back to 1.8 million the following year. They didn't reach 2 million again until 4 years later when they won the division. The bump doesn't last long at all.
 
Any word on Saturday's starter? Whoever stays up will be starting 16th, right? Then Garcia on 17th? Think that's right anyway... those are dates I'll be there
 
It's insane how much this team sucks at STP. They're legitimately hard to watch. Hell, they can't even beat the worst team in baseball anyways, so maybe we just suck lol
 
sturg33 said:
Quick update on attendance... Atlanta is drawing much better now, ranking 13th in baseball on a pre-game average... 19% higher than last year, which I think is good? but not sure what the benchmark is
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I found this from an AJC article earlier in the year.

"An analysis by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution shows that the 14 major league baseball teams that have opened stadiums since 2000 posted an average attendance increase of 28.3 percent in the first year in the new buildings."

A 19% increase would be on the low end. 28% would be over a 500K increase which is what I have seen with most stadiums recently. If the Braves continue at 19% they wouldn't crack a 400K increase. I'm going to guess the Braves are expecting more then that. We'll see what the summer does for the numbers.
 
thewupk said:
I found this from an AJC article earlier in the year.

"An analysis by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution shows that the 14 major league baseball teams that have opened stadiums since 2000 posted an average attendance increase of 28.3 percent in the first year in the new buildings."

A 19% increase would be on the low end. 28% would be over a 500K increase which is what I have seen with most stadiums recently. If the Braves continue at 19% they wouldn't crack a 400K increase. I'm going to guess the Braves are expecting more then that. We'll see what the summer does for the numbers.
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That's helpful... so I was looking at hose numbers optimistically but it does appear they are still not good
 
Does a decreased seating capacity of 8,000 factor in? Not sure how many sell outs turner field had; but if there were some, it could skew percentages
 
msstate7 said:
Does a decreased seating capacity of 8,000 factor in? Not sure how many sell outs turner field had; but if there were some, it could skew percentages
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I think they had like 3 last year. Opening day. Memorial day, and the last game in the stadium. So while that may factor some I don't see it being that much.
 
thewupk said:
I think they had like 3 last year. Opening day. Memorial day, and the last game in the stadium. So while that may factor some I don't see it being that much.
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What about average price per ticket? I think total revenue per game should be the barometer aND not attendance. Attendance can though give indicators about future growth or reduction in those revenues however
 
I don't think there's going to be a meaningful (i.e. sustainable) attendance bump until the product on the field is better. What I'm interested in is if the promised payroll bump (predicated on new revenue streams from STP) actually materializes.
 
There are obviously other factors to consider but the easiest and most relevant in my opinion is whether the new park is drawing substantially more fans (the goal)... based on the numbers, it appears it is underperforming its peers.

Having a **** team doesn't help. But I wish we'd be doing better
 
thewupk said:
I think they had like 3 last year. Opening day. Memorial day, and the last game in the stadium. So while that may factor some I don't see it being that much.
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Fwiw, there were 6 home games last season with more people than suntrust holds
 
sturg33 said:
There are obviously other factors to consider but the easiest and most relevant in my opinion is whether the new park is drawing substantially more fans (the goal)... based on the numbers, it appears it is underperforming its peers.

Having a **** team doesn't help. But I wish we'd be doing better
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I think we would need to judge the trending up until June 7th and not full year figures. I'd wager all teams get sizeable bumps in summer attendance.
 
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