Yup - With Camargo at 3B.
7/16 GDT: Arizona Diamondbacks (53-38) vs. Atlanta Braves (44-45)
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Yup - With Camargo at 3B.
WaitingFor2017
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It's Snitker we're talking about. I doubt it happens with Santana. I see it with Camargo, but I'd also like to see Adams get as many AB as possible, so we can flip him in two weeks.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
Comargo can play of better than either corner. I know it in my bones
Guy is going to be very valuable for the next 3 years.
Nerfherders
Well-known member
The first time at .500 since 7/7/15.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Except when we were 6-6 this year.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
I will say it again: Snitker will not be the manager of the next good Braves team.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
Do you have any confidence in the front office to hire a good manager? There's probably less than 5 good managers anyways.
57Brave
Well-known member
I see
a team that doesn't run into outs while running the bases aggressively
a team that almost never throws the ball to the wrong place and constantly hits cut off men
a team that plays with enthusiasm
a team that for all intent and purposes plays miles above their heads
a team with no off the field controversy
a team where the players love playing for the Braves
a team where players play unselfishly
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Those to me are the attributes of a well managed baseball team
a team that doesn't run into outs while running the bases aggressively
a team that almost never throws the ball to the wrong place and constantly hits cut off men
a team that plays with enthusiasm
a team that for all intent and purposes plays miles above their heads
a team with no off the field controversy
a team where the players love playing for the Braves
a team where players play unselfishly
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Those to me are the attributes of a well managed baseball team
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
You're not wrong, and indeed the most important traits of a good baseball manager are not related to X's and O's. However, i don't think it's too much to ask for just one manager to understand the value of matchups, defense, and resting players.
I guess not everyone can be Bobby.
57Brave
Well-known member
I think in the dugout and coaches meetings they view matchups ,defense and resting players far fifferently than we fans.
Kemp for example, I wonder what his input is on when he does and doesn't come out of lopsided games. Medical staff recommendations we aren't privy to.
I too can cherry pick Snit decisions , I was yhe guy screaming for Matt rather than Lane Saturday.
Yhey lnew something I didn't.
At this point I think Snit a candidate for MOY
Kemp for example, I wonder what his input is on when he does and doesn't come out of lopsided games. Medical staff recommendations we aren't privy to.
I too can cherry pick Snit decisions , I was yhe guy screaming for Matt rather than Lane Saturday.
Yhey lnew something I didn't.
At this point I think Snit a candidate for MOY
These are excellent points. All we hear constantly is about how managers don't matter but then each manager is nitpicked to the max as if their decisions actually matter. So which is it?
We could do worse than Snit. We are one game off of the WS Champion Cubs with their mighty manager and front office. If you are gonna bash Snit (I get it), you also need to give him credit for coming into a absolute crap situation last year and creating excitement. He also has the team to .500 after loosing Freddie. Every single one of us were saying "Well, we will have another top 5 pick." I don't like many of his moves, but I can't ignore his results.
WaitingFor2017
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I am admittedly one of Snitker's biggest critics on here. I do like the fact that the players love playing hard for him and never give up during games. I just worry about a couple of items: 1) How he deals with his pitching staff/bullpen; 2)Bench/defensive replacements and 3)Advanced Statistics
1) He either leaves in starters too long (Foltynewicz and Garcia being prime examples in the last month) or has short leashes wth them (Dickey who could easily throw 120-130 pitches each night and has been dealing recently). With the bullpen, my prime is example is just from yesterday's game. With Julio's struggles at SunTrust and him pitching tonight, you feel like you need your entire pen. Garcia pitched a great game yesterday, so you could have everyone available. Hursh and Morris hadn't pitched all weekend, so you could use those two and have everyone available for tonight. Instead, he goes with Jackson in the 8th in a game that the Braves weren't going to lose Jackson pitched Saturday night to go along with Sunday, so he is likely not available tonight. Jackson has some critics on here, but I think he has been a solid addition to the pen. Snitker did go with Morris in the 9th, but he could have a full complement of pitchers in the pen tonight instead of losing one like he did with Jackson.
2)Bench and defensive replacements: Kemp and Markakis need more time off. At the very least, both OF should NOT be playing in close games late. You should take one of them out based on matchups late in the game (take Kemp out if the team has a bunch of righties and Markakis out if facing a bunch of lefties). These guys should also get one game off a week (not the same game) to keep them fresh.
3)Advanced Statistics; Do the Braves ever have a shift on for a hell-bent pull righty or lefty? I've seen very few though Freeman was the middle-man in a double play a day or two ago. I'd like to see a manager use a lineup or use defensive positioning based on advanced stats. Is a hitter struggling with sliders or change-ups? Have your pitcher throw nothing but those. Kemp seems to be coming around the last couple of days, but between June 1 and July 10, he was an albatross hitting 4th. Advanced stats would've told you he should've been hitting 7th or so during that time. Snitker and Washington have both said to not use advanced stats and manage on their gut. I'd like to at least have a manager who realizes they are there and can be very useful even if they don't use them 100% of the time. I feel like our FO and coaching staff just dismiss information that Houston and Los Angeles use frequently.
Southcack77
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The biggest criticism of Snitker that I read is more than anything that he manages like he is trying to win every game. And that he won more last season than was best for the draft pick (which burns me too, but the org could have chosen a different path).
I think his results have been better than anyone gave the Braves much credit for being able to achieve. I'm not in love with the guy but seems evident the team likes him and responds well to him.
very good post and points.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It will be interesting to see whether certain players are rested in the Cubs series. We have a day game on Wednesday (against a lefty) following a night game on Tuesday (against a righty). That kind of situation really calls for resting some of the veterans like Kemp, Phillips and Markakis.
Against Lackey on Tuesday, it would make sense to rest Kemp and Phillips and put Santana in left and Camargo at second. In 22 career plate appearances against Lackey, Kemp has an OPS of .273. Phillips has 40 career PAs against him and an OPS of .481.
Moving on to Montgomery on Wednesday, I would rest Markakis and put Sean Rodriguez in right.
I think it will be important to manage the workload of Kemp, Phillips and Markakis in the second half. The arrangement described above would allow the team to go into the LA series as rested and sharp as possible.
Against Lackey on Tuesday, it would make sense to rest Kemp and Phillips and put Santana in left and Camargo at second. In 22 career plate appearances against Lackey, Kemp has an OPS of .273. Phillips has 40 career PAs against him and an OPS of .481.
Moving on to Montgomery on Wednesday, I would rest Markakis and put Sean Rodriguez in right.
I think it will be important to manage the workload of Kemp, Phillips and Markakis in the second half. The arrangement described above would allow the team to go into the LA series as rested and sharp as possible.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
A manager can't win games for a team, but they sure can lose them. See: 2013 NLDS.
Which is always one of the funniest ones since the goal from a Manager's, coaches', and players' standpoint IS to win every game - or at least attempt to.