7/23 GDT: Dodgers

TBF, you took a general comment a poster made about willing to be patient with a young pitcher with a similar pedigree and took the leap to infer the poster was stating that they were qualitatively comparable.

But never mind all of that, I am curious what your outlook was for 2015 Folty at the time. It seems to me you feel more optimistic about him than you are Newk now.

I have been pretty clearly high on Folty. When he was a rookie he was younger, threw harder and walked fewer people than Newk is now.

This offseason I predicted Folty would be the Ace of this staff by August.

Anyone comparing Newk to Folty right now is as wrong as clv saying Folty and Wisler were equivalent pitchers this offseason. Folty was pretty clearly better back then than Newk is now, yet folks are desperate to remain naive about Newk.
 
Sure, but I'm going to think more highly of the guy who averaged a 97 MPH with a 3 BB/9 than the guy averaging 93 MPH with 6 BB/9.

I suppose you look for other things when evaluating pitchers. That's fine I guess. It's wrong, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I suppose I'm as bad at evaluating pitching as you are at matt adams' ops
 
I have been pretty clearly high on Folty. When he was a rookie he was younger, threw harder and walked fewer people than Newk is now.

This offseason I predicted Folty would be the Ace of this staff by August.

Anyone comparing Newk to Folty right now is as wrong as clv saying Folty and Wisler were equivalent pitchers this offseason. Folty was pretty clearly better back then than Newk is now, yet folks are desperate to remain naive about Newk.

Newk has been more effective this season than Folty has (4.29 FIP to 4.53 for Folty) and he misses more bats.

I don't think Newk has been anything special, but I don't think the facts about Folty line up with your opinion of him.
 
Newk has been more effective this season than Folty has (4.29 FIP to 4.53 for Folty) and he misses more bats.

I don't think Newk has been anything special, but I don't think the facts about Folty line up with your opinion of him.

Just so I'm clear...you think Newk is currently better than Folty?
 
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