7/4/17 GDT Thread: Welcome back Freddie!!!

think how crazy it is to move a franchise mvp type player for a person that you think needs to bat 6th
 
goldfly said:
think how crazy it is to move a franchise mvp type player for a person that you think needs to bat 6th
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Pretty sure when Chipper moved to LF it was for Vinny Castilla, who also was hitting 6th behind Jones-Sheff-Jones.

And then when DeRo became a starter in 2004, Chipper opted to stay there for DeRo to be in the lineup.
 
Forever Fredi said:
Pretty sure when Chipper moved to LF it was for Vinny Castilla, who also was hitting 6th behind Jones-Sheff-Jones.

And then when DeRo became a starter in 2004, Chipper opted to stay there for DeRo to be in the lineup.
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and i thought then, as i do now, that an adult should stand up and say, no
 
TheBravos said:
I will say this....Houston didn't "pretend" to field a winning team in the rebuild. They tanked HARD and were able to draft the best players. It is now paying off. Our future is in good shape, it could have been even better.
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They also weren't "tanking," they were just very, very bad. They got Springer at 11 and Correa at 1 (who wasn't considered the best player in the draft, IIRC, but more of a $$ pick). They also took Mark Appel (passing on Bryant) and Brady Aiken with #1 overall picks, which is two terrible seasons followed by drafting guys who didn't contribute anything to you.
 
Super said:
They also weren't "tanking," they were just very, very bad. They got Springer at 11 and Correa at 1 (who wasn't considered the best player in the draft, IIRC, but more of a $$ pick). They also took Mark Appel (passing on Bryant) and Brady Aiken with #1 overall picks, which is two terrible seasons followed by drafting guys who didn't contribute anything to you.
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Springer ended up being a stud and altuve became a superstar.

Similar things can happen to the braves with acuna and albies.
 
Super said:
Definitely. And with other guys, as well.
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Especially the pitching. There is a universe where the braves win 92+ games annually for multiple seasons just because theirbstarting pitching is better than most teams.
 
thethe said:
Especially the pitching. There is a universe where the braves win 92+ games annually for multiple seasons just because theirbstarting pitching is better than most teams.
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Indeed. Braves are set up pretty well to contend in the future for several years.
 
The largest crowd in suntrust history was just too much pressure on our team. We'll win 5 in a row now to close out the break. Astros probably didn't sleep a wink worrying bout facing Jamie tonight
 
Last night was expected. Newcomb is a rookie, playing one of the better lineups (statistically) in MLB history up to his point in the year. He'll be fine.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
Last night was expected. Newcomb is a rookie, playing one of the better lineups (statistically) in MLB history up to his point in the year. He'll be fine.
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And poor defense did him no favors. BP missed two plays that should've been fairly routine. Kemp took 18 minutes to get to a ball in LF. He certainly didn't pitch well, though.

This is why I say I don't see how you can go into next year with Kemp in LF and/or Freeman at 3rd. Kemp is just so, so bad out there and with young pitchers coming up you can't really have that. Last night made me really want Albies up to start the season next year.
 
Super said:
And poor defense did him no favors. BP missed two plays that should've been fairly routine. Kemp took 18 minutes to get to a ball in LF. He certainly didn't pitch well, though.

This is why I say I don't see how you can go into next year with Kemp in LF and/or Freeman at 3rd. Kemp is just so, so bad out there and with young pitchers coming up you can't really have that. Last night made me really want Albies up to start the season next year.
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One of the things that will happen as the prospects come up is that our defense will improve. Albies will be a defensive upgrade at second. Same with Acuna in right. When we get around to acquiring a third baseman it is likely that this will also upgrade the defense. The team can succeed with Kemp in left if the rest of the defense is above average.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
Last night was expected. Newcomb is a rookie, playing one of the better lineups (statistically) in MLB history up to his point in the year. He'll be fine.
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I didn't realize the Astros had been that good. Their team WRC+ of 125 would be good for 2nd all time to only the 27 Yankees who were at 126. That's damn impressive.
 
Very impressed with the Stros last night. I think Newk was missing on several pitches. Pitches that where supposed to be breakers down were in the middle.. fastballs either in or up were belt high, middle.. But the Stros also hit some good pitches.. the springer homer was impressive to take a slow curve that was outside and muscle it opposite field.. I know.. short porch.. but still that was a good pitch. A couple doubles were lined off good pitches too. I am not discouraged by Newk's start. He faced a really hot team with not his best command and sloppy play at 2B didn't help either.
 
Forever Fredi said:
Pretty sure when Chipper moved to LF it was for Vinny Castilla, who also was hitting 6th behind Jones-Sheff-Jones.

And then when DeRo became a starter in 2004, Chipper opted to stay there for DeRo to be in the lineup.
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Chipper moved to LF for a guy who should've been batting 8th in AAA.

Seriously. F*** Vinny Castilla. For this to be a valid comparison to the current Freeman/Adams positional merry-go-round, it would have to be Freddie moving so that Jace or Bonerface could get regular at-bats.

Once again, just because it rolls off the tongue/keyboard...F*** Vinny Castilla.
 
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