8/22/14 Braves @ Reds 7:10 ET

Here's kind of an existential conundrum: is Justin Upton so un-clutch that he can retroactively render clutch situations non-clutch by the mere fact of his having had success in them?
 
57Brave said:
Wait till Woods,Minor and Tehran can walk out there with the savvy of Harang and Santana. The young three need their best stuff every night for 100 pitches. It's fun watching Harang and Santana weave through lineups with flat fastballs and hanging breaking pitches and still keep the team in games.
The kids are learning
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That's what Glavine did for years. Nothing overpowering, just threw it where they knew it was coming and they still couldn't do much with it (except Mike Redmond).
 
BJ#1FAN said:
I'd take Harper over Justin and Heyward. Harper playing center can cover as much field as two corner outfielders combined. Am i right?
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zitothebrave said:
So Justin has to be top 3 in NL MVP consideration? Top 5? Of course a lot can change before the end of the season.
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In the NL he's 6th in WRC+, 3rd in homers, and 2nd in RBI. Stanton is ahead of him in RBI and homes and 1st n WRC+. He's the best hitter in the NL but we'll see if being on the Fish who should be out of the race wll hurt him. Another thing is Freeman is 7th in WRC+ and will likely take quite a bit of votes away.

Then you have guys like Seth Smith and Goldy who are having great years on horrible teams. They won't get many votes. Cutch is having a great year but the Pirates are likely out of it so not much love for him. Puig right now has to be the slight favorite since he has lots of hype, having a really good year, and is on a first place team.

I'd have to say if the season ended today it would be

Puig

Stanton

Upton

I will say the only thing hurting Puig is the lack of sexy stats. Only 13 homers, 59 homers, 7 steals, and 70 runs. He likely won't have any traditional MVP counting stats besides maybe a 300 average. A lot can change in the next 5 weeks though. If Upton can carry this hot streak through most of the end of the year and get the Braves a WC spot he could pull a 99 Chipper on us.
 
thethe said:
It's awesome to watch Upton when he is hot. Have to sign him long term. Just have to.
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IN the internet version of "fishwrap", they have a lot to say about Justin and his willingness to change his approach at bat depending on occasion. That is really good to hear.
 
Justin Upton's stats over the last week are incredible: .481 AVG (13-27) with three homers, 13 RBI's, one triple, four walks and eight runs.

That's insane. 13 freaking RBI's.
 
I would take Jason. I think he ends up being a .300 hitter and develops enormous power. That plus his defense> Justin.

That said, you have to sign them both. Without BJ and Uggla, you have the cash.
 
Hulavol said:
I would take Jason. I think he ends up being a .300 hitter and develops enormous power. That plus his defense> Justin.

That said, you have to sign them both. Without BJ and Uggla, you have the cash.
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How are you not paying BJ? Uggla comes off the books after 2015, BJ doesn't. I'd love to keep them both but not if it means we go cheap on the pitching. That never seems to work.
 
thewupk said:
In the NL he's 6th in WRC+, 3rd in homers, and 2nd in RBI. Stanton is ahead of him in RBI and homes and 1st n WRC+. He's the best hitter in the NL but we'll see if being on the Fish who should be out of the race wll hurt him. Another thing is Freeman is 7th in WRC+ and will likely take quite a bit of votes away.

Then you have guys like Seth Smith and Goldy who are having great years on horrible teams. They won't get many votes. Cutch is having a great year but the Pirates are likely out of it so not much love for him. Puig right now has to be the slight favorite since he has lots of hype, having a really good year, and is on a first place team.

I'd have to say if the season ended today it would be

Puig
Stanton
Upton

I will say the only thing hurting Puig is the lack of sexy stats. Only 13 homers, 59 homers, 7 steals, and 70 runs. He likely won't have any traditional MVP counting stats besides maybe a 300 average. A lot can change in the next 5 weeks though. If Upton can carry this hot streak through most of the end of the year and get the Braves a WC spot he could pull a 99 Chipper on us.
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We're just a few games ahead of Pitts and Miami so I don't see how you can rule out McCutchen and Stanton. Stanton's having the best year, he'll probably win. Goldy's done with an injury so scratch him.
 
I'm all for signing Justin and Jason both long-term. That said, if we do that, we HAVE to find either a CF who will produce or a RF that can provide enough quality defense to allow Jason to move over. If I'm Wren, I seriously look into that this offseason.
 
stpeteirish said:
How are you not paying BJ? Uggla comes off the books after 2015, BJ doesn't. I'd love to keep them both but not if it means we go cheap on the pitching. That never seems to work.
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The Braves develop pitching pretty well.

I'm confident we can continue to produce quality P's.

Position players, not so much.
 
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