AA says Braves can add payroll

I’m not sure he could add enough for us to contend. This is not a “one or two players away” team. Probably just get some guys back, bring up a few young guys and hope to catch lighting in a bottle. Last year was the year…this year isn’t.
 
TheBravos said:
I’m not sure he could add enough for us to contend. This is not a “one or two players away” team. Probably just get some guys back, bring up a few young guys and hope to catch lighting in a bottle. Last year was the year…this year isn’t.
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I disagree with that assessment, but that hinges on the pitchers we have performing up to their usual standards.
 
CyYoung31 said:
I disagree with that assessment, but that hinges on the pitchers we have performing up to their usual standards.
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I agree with you. Oh, and FF's real numbers start matching up with how they should look. A shut down closer turns this pen into a strength quickly imo
 
msstate7 said:
I agree with you. Oh, and FF's real numbers start matching up with how they should look. A shut down closer turns this pen into a strength quickly imo
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Get a closer and possibly adding one or two of our starters to the pen and we're in business.
 
clvclv said:
I'm pretty sure they're well aware of those concerns as well, and think that's why the return is likely to be a bit less than they'd like. Frazier's high BABIP (as well as his hard-hit rate I'd think) would be a concern for teams interested in him, and I'd expect the Pirates realize that too.

I think one of the three arms you mentioned is reasonable, and that Waters would arguably be "expendable" in a deal like this where you'd control Frazier next season to be able to take your time with Harris' development. If you're going to include Waters, Muller is pulled back though. They get ONE guy whose clock hasn't started, not two. They're really short on Catching depth as well, and with Contreras ready now and Langeliers looking like he will be ready at some point in 2022 (if not Opening Day) I'd throw A-Jax in.

My thought was Waters, A-Jax, their choice of Wilson or Wright, and maybe filler like Ervin/Demeritte/Trey Harris - Ervin or Demeritte if they wanted someone they could add to the roster now, Harris if they wanted someone a bit further away with higher upside.
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Why would they want any of those guys?
 
Considering the only realistic option for the playoffs is chasing down the Mets, who already have a 5.5 game lead, I wouldn't let your imaginations run too wild with big upgrade trades.

Think more along the lines of Naquin to replace Ender in CF, and a rental RH BP arm that costs almost nothing. Maybe a non-zero bat for cOF (or 3B that pushes Riley to LF).

But first I think Waters needs to be given a chance to show what he can do over 100+ PAs. This certainly isn't a "go for it" type season right now.
 
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50PoundHead said:
Why would they want any of those guys?
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Simply filler. They'll need a warm body to put on the roster to replace Frazier if they don't instantly promote Waters and put him in the lineup (which I'm sure would be a possibility). There would be a long list of filler guys I think AA would consider including in that type of deal - Dean, Owens, Paolini, Estes, etc.. Depth guys in our system who would all probably be Top 15-ish in theirs.
 
Enscheff said:
Considering the only realistic option for the playoffs is chasing down the Mets, who already have a 5.5 game lead, I wouldn't let your imaginations run too wild with big upgrade trades.

Think more along the lines of Naquin to replace Ender in CF, and a rental RH BP arm that costs almost nothing. Maybe a non-zero bat for cOF (or 3B that pushes Riley to LF).

But first I think Waters needs to be given a chance to show what he can do over 100+ PAs. This certainly isn't a "go for it" type season right now.
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Agree. I'd never want to waste a year of Acuna and Albies but I'm not going crazy this year.

But there may be some deals out there long term. I still think there are some teams that will want to dump salary for the labor fight next year. Maybe you can get a deal. Maybe you call sell high on a Tucker Davidson.

If Waters does not play soon it will say a lot. Apparently he is nursing an injury so we'll see.
 
I think the pending CBA is driving the season for Atlanta. That combined with all the money freed up this winter along with an official act on the Ozuna situation. Going back to old fashion baseball: Pitching wins games. With the current depth and low cost the starting rotation next year could be one of the strongest in baseball and cheapest. Strong up the middle: Catching is developing quickly, Albies is in place, with all the FA elite SS coming up, AA can take his pick if the CBA is anyway balanced, move Acuna back to CF and fill in the corners with LH/RH balance. Riley is the hole card IMO, 3d, LF or even 1b are in play IMO. I am not betting my ranch that FF will be a Brave next year but do hope so.
 
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PawPawMaxwell said:
I think the pending CBA is driving the season for Atlanta. That combined with all the money freed up this winter along with an official act on the Ozuna situation. Going back to old fashion baseball: Pitching wins games. With the current depth and low cost the starting rotation next year could be one of the strongest in baseball and cheapest. Strong up the middle: Catching is developing quickly, Albies is in place, with all the FA elite SS coming up, AA can take his pick if the CBA is anyway balanced, move Acuna back to CF and fill in the corners with LH/RH balance. Riley is the hole card IMO, 3d, LF or even 1b are in play IMO. I am not betting my ranch that FF will be a Brave next year but do hope so.
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wrong thread should have been in the fix it thread
 
CyYoung31 said:
I disagree with that assessment, but that hinges on the pitchers we have performing up to their usual standards.
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Let me rephrase that. We are fixable, but the cost of the moves at the deadline would really damage the farm (being we are very top heavy).
 
Just not our year - don't waste pieces.

6.5 games back on June 16th? Time to be realistic. Let the guys you have play and see if they can get hot and re-assess next month.
 
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Didn’t he say the same thing after the kids signed extensions and let the Braves bend them over in regards to payroll flexibility and then add said extra payroll in the bullpen only to dump it within one year after we were a game from the WS?
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Would be thrilled but we’ve been here before.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
With Liberty Media as owners? I’m not buying it.
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Why would AA say it if it wasn’t true? Especially in a year when most teams are either maxed out or cutting payroll.

The fact that we have Liberty Media as owners probably has insulated us to a degree from the effects of the pandemic.
 
Slippyjms said:
Why would AA say it if it wasn’t true? Especially in a year when most teams are either maxed out or cutting payroll.

The fact that we have Liberty Media as owners probably has insulated us to a degree from the effects of the pandemic.
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As soon as he moves Ozuna to the 60 day IL insurance kicks in. That may be the money he talks about as well as anything else.
 
PawPawMaxwell said:
As soon as he moves Ozuna to the 60 day IL insurance kicks in. That may be the money he talks about as well as anything else.
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If that's the case, why not now? Do you have to wait a certain amount of time to do that?

Are we positive that ozuna is done for the braves this season?
 
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