Affordable Care Act

Question for 57 - please answer directly without giving some link to comb through.

If Obamacare is so great, why has congress gone out of their way to excuse themselves from it?
 
i had heard f it when it happened and kinda just passed it by as just something else the shiney object watchers attached themselves to.

Sturg --- i simply googled "congress excluded from ..." why cant you do that and learn something . ON YOUR OWN

here: you might have to sludge through a paragraph or two.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/25/fact-check-congress-staff-are-exempt-from-obamacare/

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When Obamacare was passed into law, Sen. Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges. What nobody accounted for at the time was that members of Congress and their staffers currently have health insurance through their employer – the federal government. No other employer has been legally required to drop its employee’s health care plan and have them buy coverage on the exchanges.:"

Pretty simple explanation - so Congress is just like you and me now. They can use it or not.
Sheeesh
 
57Brave said:
i had heard f it when it happened and kinda just passed it by as just something else the shiney object watchers attached themselves to.

Sturg --- i simply googled "congress excluded from ..." why cant you do that and learn something . ON YOUR OWN

here: you might have to sludge through a paragraph or two.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/25/fact-check-congress-staff-are-exempt-from-obamacare/

"
When Obamacare was passed into law, Sen. Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges. What nobody accounted for at the time was that members of Congress and their staffers currently have health insurance through their employer – the federal government. No other employer has been legally required to drop its employee’s health care plan and have them buy coverage on the exchanges.:"

Pretty simple explanation - so Congress is just like you and me now. They can use it or not.
Sheeesh
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haha - but they are not fined if they choose not to have health insurance. I am
 
I take it back - that was uncalled for :)

I dont know if they get fined or not. Or if you get fined and honestl dont care.

All I know is I am keeping my current coverage - in a few years when I am retired my prescription drugs wont be as expensive as they were in 2010 and some poor woman with a small child somewhere has access to a mamogram.
Or some grad student that falls and breaks his leg doesn't get a $30,000 bill and someone who gets layed off gets to keep coverage from previous employer until he/she finds new employment.
Pretty simple really.

Ever been laid off Sturg? It is a bitch -- under the old system then when you get re-employed you would have to start all over with new HC coverage and provider. Now, you get to keep old coverage -- if you choose.

That seems to be a pretty frequent word used in HC discussions the past few days "choose" "choice"
 
57Brave said:
why would you chose to not have health insurance?

again I ask, are you 8?
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Because I am young and completely healthy. Haven't been to the doctor in 3 years... The money I could have saved in the last few years could have been invest and made me a lot more money.

But THAT is beside the point - the point is, why are congressmen getting to play by different rules than we are? Why did they go out of their way to get themselves out of this bill? Their aides? Some big business? WHY? IT'S SO AMAZING
 
If I run a red light I get a ticket. If a cop runs a red light ...
If George Bush gets a DWI he gets off
Pretty sure the desserts are a dollar in the congressional cafeteria too. Do you know that the Speaker of the House gets his own airplane?

Life just aint fair --- is it? :)

I've told you, I don't know and don't care!
 
57Brave said:
If I run a red light I get a ticket. If a cop runs a red light ...
If George Bush gets a DWI he gets off
Pretty sure the desserts are a dollar in the congressional cafeteria too. Do you know that the Speaker of the House gets his own airplane?

Life just aint fair --- is it? :)

I've told you, I don't know and don't care!
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You're exactly right. Because if a cop runs a red light, there is a negative thing consequence (he gets a ticket and loses money), so he exempts himself.

If Bush gets a DWI, there is a bad consequence (he loses lisence etc etc), so he is excused to avoid that bad consequence

And if congress was forced into a ****ty health care system, there would be a bad consequence (they would be in a ****ty health care system). So they excuse themselves, and let us suffer.
 
Oh and just to be clear, 57 - you never answered the question. Why did they work so hard to excuse themself from this amazing law?

If you say congressmen get benefits that regular americans don't, you're just proving the point that it is a bad system - because congress is getting the benefit of avoiding it. If that is what you meant, then I wholeheartedly agree.
 
Word from the industry in our area is that rates will be the same in the exchange as outside it, but that rate is yet "undetermined" for Jan 1 (well no one can get any answers either way IE Exchange is locked up by the Harry Reid Crime a thon on GTA).
 
**** is going down.

Reid's office leaked emails from Boehner saying to exempt Congress from Obamacare.

Glenn Beck is irrate.
 
sturg33 said:
Because I am young and completely healthy. Haven't been to the doctor in 3 years... The money I could have saved in the last few years could have been invest and made me a lot more money.
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That's some elite-level risk-assessment there.

Also, you should probably go get a physical.
 
Unlimited resources and they still can't get the website to work. Government at its finest.
 
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