Affordable Care Act

Hawk said:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry!

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Well, that settles that.
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well, i believe his bull**** quotes as much as i do my 6 year old nephew who tells me **** like he has the world figured out

but he also said everyone is getting coverage

and he then backed a tax cut deal for the wealthy that is disguised as a healthcare plan

so, you know
 
One thing I'm decidedly not excited for is to see how the DHHS plans to prove the President right about the ACA. I'm not confident they'll be acting in the interest of the American public over the course of the next few years.
 
The Rude Pundit‏ @rudepundit 57m57 minutes ago

After 6 years of GOP obstruction being portrayed as "both sides do it," this week ought to have clarified which party has shat the bed.

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Julio3000 said:
He has an opportunity. And I see it as a test of the campaign-era rhetoric used to sell him to skeptics: he's non-ideological, he's a populist, he's not really a Republican, etc.

Democrats are going to have to ask themselves some tough questions about whether or not they're capable of assembling a governing coalition with enough staying power to get anything bigger and more lasting done in the future (I'm not optimistic about that).

It's also going to be complicated by '18 electoral politics.
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About it in a nutshell. I guess we'll know more when the tax bill rolls out. If Trump pulls out the trickle-down schtick, I don't know if he'll be able to pivot to a populist tone. The other problem is that he becomes what Ventura became in Minnesota: an executive with no allies. People cooperated with Ventura in the short term, but both sides were cheering for him to fail which made long-term coalitions impossible to forge.
 
Matthew Yglesias‏Verified account @mattyglesias 3m3 minutes ago

Trump actually has just the right skillset — strong on marketing, branding, & cajoling — to boost ACA signups and “fix” Obamacare.

wondered this earlier --- if it has crossed Trumps mind that if to him his place in history is meaningful , he needs Nancy Pelosi.
 
57Brave said:
The Rude Pundit‏ @rudepundit 57m57 minutes ago

After 6 years of GOP obstruction being portrayed as "both sides do it," this week ought to have clarified which party has shat the bed.
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I don't quite understand this tweet.

The bill didn't pass bc many people who voted against Obamacare also voted against this because it didn't solve any problems. The people who flipped were the Dems, no?
 
Sarah Kliff‏Verified account @sarahkliff Mar 27

States now exploring Medicaid expansion this year:
—Kansas
—Virginia
—Georgia
—Maine
 
sturg33 said:
I don't quite understand this tweet.

The bill didn't pass bc many people who voted against Obamacare also voted against this because it didn't solve any problems. The people who flipped were the Dems, no?
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Yeah, if anything this reinforces that both parties obstruct the other. The only bad thing it says about the GOP is that they have no real clue how they want to handle healthcare. While that's a pretty big issue itself, it doesn't really address obstructionism.
 
sturg33 said:
mqt tell me when a government run anything performed better than the private sector.

We'll ignore the personal liberty side of it.
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I have several examples, but I'll go with the slam-dunk: Conservation of natural resources, as public lands, protected for preservation and recreation. You think we'd still have a Grand Canyon if we left parks up to the private-sector?
 
Julio3000 said:
On a related topic, I wish that democrats in Congress had spent every minute of floor time today talking about single-payer HC, if for no other reason then to help set the terms of any future debate.
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This is what non-total-failures would do, yes.
 
As the Republican-led state legislature has slashed funding to reproductive healthcare clinics, the maternal mortality rate doubled over just a two-year period

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-health-clinics-funding

The rate of Texas women who died from complications related to pregnancy doubled from 2010 to 2014, a new study has found, for an estimated maternal mortality rate that is unmatched in any other state and the rest of the developed world.
 
Good Lord, here we go again

Greg Sargent‏Verified account @ThePlumLineGS 2m2 minutes ago

GOP moderates must vote for:

Gutting preexisting conditions
$800 billion Medicaid cuts
Likely doomed in Senate
 
57Brave said:
Good Lord, here we go again

Greg Sargent‏Verified account @ThePlumLineGS 2m2 minutes ago

GOP moderates must vote for:

Gutting preexisting conditions
$800 billion Medicaid cuts
Likely doomed in Senate
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This is why it's so dangerous to pass a ****ty legislation... tweets like this make it impossible for it to ever be undone... because there will be *GASP* cuts!
 
you yourself have said some form on national health care is here to stay. No putting the horse back in the barn.

Yet, I have yet to see you or your (L) friends put forward reforms.

Out of curiosity you have a seat at the table. Sturg33 and Sen Sanders etc
To strike a bargain with Sen Sanders , what would you say.
What is your offer?
 
57Brave said:
you yourself have said some form on national health care is here to stay. No putting the horse back in the barn.

Yet, I have yet to see you or your (L) friends put forward reforms.

Out of curiosity you have a seat at the table. Sturg33 and Sen Sanders etc
To strike a bargain with Sen Sanders , what would you say.
What is your offer?
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My "reforms" would be do undo it all, and replace it with nothing.
 
and that is why you get no say at the table.
Nor attention at national debates or little to no fundraising and your candidates are left to run on niche issues

Been a long time since we brought out the phrase Social Darwinism.

I offered and you pissed on the offer
 
oh, let me add this since sturg for all intent and purposes took himself out of the Health Care debate.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/...smid=tw-share&referer=https://t.co/IOsvEeiTXK

There is a reason that many conservatives want to do away with these provisions. Because they help people with substantial health care needs buy relatively affordable coverage, they drive up the price of insurance for people who are healthy. An insurance market that did not include cancer care — or even any cancer patients — would be one where premiums for the remaining customers were much lower. The result might be a market that is much more affordable for people with a clean bill of health. But it would become largely inaccessible to anyone who really needs help paying for medical care.
 
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