Airplane disaster - Mental Illness issues?

I mostly find it an extremely distasteful comparison. This couldn't be more apples to oranges.[/QUOTE

And why is that? They're both centered around the same thing. A mentally ill person has a mental break and kills people. Take the instrument out of the picture and it's about a person snapping. Only difference is they used different instruments.
 
I mostly find it an extremely distasteful comparison. This couldn't be more apples to oranges.[/QUOTE

And why is that? They're both centered around the same thing. A mentally ill person has a mental break and kills people. Take the instrument out of the picture and it's about a person snapping. Only difference is they used different instruments.

Yeah, that's the ONLY difference.
jesus christ.
 
So what's the common difference between an insane person shooting someone, stabbing someone or piloting a plane and crashing it on purpose?

there is seriously no use in doing this. the two are not even remotely similar. it's a feeble attempt on your pro-gun end to loosely connect two dissimilar things through mental illness. i'm sure you're at least smart enough to figure out the two hugely different dynamics between the two situations, and the huge differences between guns and planes in general. it's not even apples to oranges. it's like apples to poison pills. "but you can eat both of them so they're the same!!!"
 
im not arguing the differences between a gun and a plane. I'm just asking about the person behind this and his reasons why.

I guess liberals blame the gun when a mentally Ill person shoots someone but when they crash a plane they blame the mentally Ill person.
 
I mostly find it an extremely distasteful comparison. This couldn't be more apples to oranges.

The problem is mental illness. NO matter what tool they use to unleash their mental instability, the problem is still the same.
 
im not arguing the differences between a gun and a plane. I'm just asking about the person behind this and his reasons why.

I guess liberals blame the gun when a mentally Ill person shoots someone but when they crash a plane they blame the mentally Ill person.

Which happens more often:
Shooting sprees by a mentally unstable person, or a mentally unstable person crashing a plane? Why is that?

Arguing tighter gun regulations isn't "blaming the gun", the same way making it internationally mandatory to have a minimum of two people in the cockpit at all times isn't blaming the airplane.
 
I always love when people mock a comparison with "IT'S NOT EVEN COMPARABLE"

Then the person asks, well what's the difference? And there never is an answer... You just get "It's not even worth debating." and "You seriously can't figure out the difference???"
 
I always love when people mock a comparison with "IT'S NOT EVEN COMPARABLE"

Then the person asks, well what's the difference? And there never is an answer... You just get "It's not even worth debating." and "You seriously can't figure out the difference???"

I'll see your straw man and raise you a false comparison

There's the whole availability thing with planes. It's not like you can go to your local pawn shop, buy a jet liner, force 200 people to climb aboard, and then crash it.

The only similarity is that they both can be used to harm other people. The other 98% couldn't be more different.
 
I mostly find it an extremely distasteful comparison. This couldn't be more apples to oranges.[/QUOTE

And why is that? They're both centered around the same thing. A mentally ill person has a mental break and kills people. Take the instrument out of the picture and it's about a person snapping. Only difference is they used different instruments.

The difference is that if I, the lay man with mental illness, decide I want to kill someone, I can't just go to the store and buy a 747.

I'm not even against gun rights, but I'm sure liberals would be ecstatic if gun control was nearly half as strong as the regulations in the piloting world.
 
On the onset, I was right, mental illness.

Want to be upfront, I have a disorder, 46 years later revealed, panic attacks, feeling blah, common theme, the doc said why I have them is I have no control on my life, a genius (I LAUGHED) in most aspects but my kids seem to have it and they want us to monitor them because a 3 year olds at the time, both of my kids, read at a 3rd grade level and now my son, a 4 year old is at at 5th grade level and doing 5th grade arithmatic and my daughter, a 6 year old, reading at a 7th grade level and on the verge of Frosh math, something is seriously wrong with me because I have not taught them anything but sports and the wife, while good with accounting numbers (she has two businesses as an accountant and photographer) has no clue about Calculus unlike me nor she knows words like conundrum, discombobulated or even copious. When I come home we play games like Uno or Jewels or Tonk or Gin with the kids.

What I am saying, you can't tell you have a mental illness. I have one but it does not affect my job. I have Panic-Depressive-Anxiety disorder (go ahead and laugh, you see why I got pissed at Zeets and why I go off, I am not Bi-Polar but I will defend myself if necessary) and after all this time they finally are giving me medication and you know what, it works. I don't pace the room for six straight hours or afraid to go to sleep, if something happens I won't wake up and see my angels and Dalyn would say, my kids are angels.

gosh I feel nekkid now and people will make fun of me.

Do it at your own risk because I am not the nicest person in the world if you make fun it. When we are physically seeing each other, I am with my friends, that is all the Braves Nation, even that hillbilly Runnin, who hates my guts.

I am your brother and would be there for you. Zeets pulled a very good prank on me and I forgive him, but if he needs a friend to be a bodyguard, I would be there for him, no questions ask and if wants to visit Wisconsin, his home is my home like any other of you. This goes for anyone because in the past I was a bodyguard to make some extra cash when I lived in Las Vegas.
 
I always love when people mock a comparison with "IT'S NOT EVEN COMPARABLE"

Then the person asks, well what's the difference? And there never is an answer... You just get "It's not even worth debating." and "You seriously can't figure out the difference???"

because it's a useless thing to ask. it was a very sturg-ish question, and I thought that as soon as he asked it. makes total sense you defend something completely stupid and pointless like that.

it isn't worth debating. it's completely useless and over-simplified.
 
because it's a useless thing to ask. it was a very sturg-ish question, and I thought that as soon as he asked it. makes total sense you defend something completely stupid and pointless like that.

it isn't worth debating. it's completely useless and over-simplified.

Like clockwork
 
I'll see your straw man and raise you a false comparison

There's the whole availability thing with planes. It's not like you can go to your local pawn shop, buy a jet liner, force 200 people to climb aboard, and then crash it.

The only similarity is that they both can be used to harm other people. The other 98% couldn't be more different.

Thanks for the answer... it was sensible - so I appreciate it.

But it doesn't change the principle of the argument. The issue is not the tool being used, but the person using it. Everytime there is a shooting, someone is screaming to ban guns. But that doesn't and won't change the underlying problem.
 
Thanks for the answer... it was sensible - so I appreciate it.

But it doesn't change the principle of the argument. The issue is not the tool being used, but the person using it. Everytime there is a shooting, someone is screaming to ban guns. But that doesn't and won't change the underlying problem.

Any logical person (most of the time liberals don't meet this criterium) will acknowledge that you can't completely eradicate the possibility of tragedy. But given the choice, liberals would love the gun industry to be as heavily regulated as the airline industry.

So if it doesn't make sense why liberals aren't making the apples to apples comparison to guns, then there's my feeble attempt of understanding it.
 
Yeah, let's make being able to get a gun as difficult as it is to be able to fly commercial jetliners. They're so similar, right?
 
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