This has baffled me the entire time. If you want to trade Wood and Peraza, why trade for a guy over 30? Wouldn't it make sense to trade for a younger prospect? From day 1, I just never understood the desire to trade for Hector. (ignoring that I also didn't think he was very good)
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This has baffled me the entire time. If you want to trade Wood and Peraza, why trade for a guy over 30? Wouldn't it make sense to trade for a younger prospect? From day 1, I just never understood the desire to trade for Hector. (ignoring that I also didn't think he was very good)
As we speak, Heyward hits a homer off of Urias
So Cubs fans can expect his production to improve when he "really starts getting paid", right?
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
I agree, dude gave us top 20 player in all of baseball seasons during his time here and was traded. It's not like he crapped on the team, talked trash and then left for more $$$. Heyward played his heart out for us.
No but they should expect his production to improve because he has a track record of great production. Again, what does that have to do with Butler's and Neck's track record of declining production?
Andruw effect. People throught he should be all world both defensively and offensively. Only got all world defense and good offense so he's crap.
Nice to see you again - glad I could ruin your day!!!
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
I noticed they keep harping on Peraza ignoring the value the Dodgers got back for him in trading him. The nonsense around these parts by some and what lengths they go to defend the FO on even trades as bad as the Olivera trade makes me not even want to discuss this further with them. If they cannot be reasonable in looking at this it's a waste of time.
Only poking at your reply to yeezus pointing out that he's on pace for 1.2 WAR. Isn't $15 million an overpay for that?
The Heyward argument is so old and tired it makes me feel young. Ol' Ron Paul Jr. can spin it as defending the brass or whatever gets his rocks off - the simple fact is that the Braves weren't (and may never be) in a position to pay the kind of money he got for what he does so well (and where most of his value lies). Same with Simba. This team got 1 hit - ONE HIT - off Jake Peavy the night before last. Nothing either of the two of them could possibly have done defensively would have changed that. My guess is that most of the other posters here who have been marked as members of "The Cult Of The Johns" don't hate either player - as a matter of fact, I bet many of them have a J-Hey or Simba jersey or t-shirt (I happen to have 2 Heyward jerseys myself and named a pet Heyward as well). What's funny about the whole thing is that people like "Ron Jr." actually probably believes that everyone who sees some of the reasoning for trading him really does hate him and would spit in his face if they bumped into him on the street.
You're putting words into people's mouths.
Who's celebrating Wood getting hurt?
Who hates Heyward?
Pointing out he's struggling offensively is calling it like it is - not hating him.
And I was pointing out that Neck is headed in the same direction that Butler was a couple of years ago. Not the merits of X player not performing to his contract.
Believe it or not, that might not be the first time that's happened - even in this thread.
sturg33
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You must be new... this dude's dog must have been raped by Heyward or something
sturg33
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Yeah but because Peraza may not become an all-star, that means he was a bum who had no trade value.
Same with Wood...
Or maybe I like OFs that make that type of money to be better with the bat - if that's hating on Heyward then so be it. It's really that simple.
But I get it, whatever you can find to fit your agenda.
sturg33
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Heyward has been worth every penny he's ever been paid and then some.
But I guess since he has struggled for 2 months then he is a bust?
The same nonsense from the same posters were dancing on here last year about how terrible Heyward was doing in STL... and then he ended the year with his same great production.
I'll give it a year... hell I'll give it a couple years before I declare his contract a bust.
Once again putting words into people's mouths, it's like you decide how you want to interpret posts - instead of actually reading them.
I challenge you to find anybody in this thread that says Heyward is a bust.
Since you think that. How much do you think his defense alone is worth? I'm just curious as nobody who doesn't think Heyward is worth his contract has ever given me a number for what they value his defense at.
Defense alone??? Maybe 6 million, I mean if we are ONLY talking defense - teams don't pay 17 million for defensive specialists.
Now that being said, the Cubs didn't buy Heyward for his defense alone, they expect pretty good offense too, and it's too early to say they won't get that.
But SO FAR? He's underperformed considering what's he's being paid, I don't even know how that me arguable.