50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
But that begs the question, we know Olivera was overvalued, but are fans here overvaluing Peraza as well?
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But that begs the question, we know Olivera was overvalued, but are fans here overvaluing Peraza as well?
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
But Markakis costs way less. Sure, Heyward will end up being better bang for the buck. But when you're a team with the Brave's payroll, giving $23M/yr to Heyward is very tough to do, especially when you don't have young hitters to surround him with.
DirkPiggler
Well-known member
A Ferrari at $50,000 is a much better deal than a Jeep at $30,000, but if you only have $50,000 to spend the Jeep makes more sense.
Forgetting Heyward, I don't know that there is anyway that signing Markakis makes a lick of sense.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
It would have if we would have flipped him after he showed signs of life last year. the FO got greedy and now he has no value. At least this off season, we could tout that he can still hit and will regain his power after a full off season work out. That lie has sailed and we have nothing..
But in this case it's like spending 30K on a Jeep but having it break down every month so your paying even more in repairs.
Trumps' twitter guy
Creepy Lurking Stalker
A totally bad trade from senial Jon Hart. I would have made a much beter deal. Make the Braves Great Again!
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Give a kid keys to the Bentley...little Johnny is a pathetic third-rate GM
Really a lot of angst for a deal that means practically nothing. Just get a poor pitcher out of the way in order to provide more opportunities to try out the young guys. Take a flyer on a guy who may have some upside. I guess we could have held out for starting quality position player.
The FO has taken some risks... some have worked out and some have not. Not the first time... won't be the last. We will always have things to whine about, and some things to celebrate.
Oh yeah. They have done some things right along with their mistakes.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Really a lot of angst for a deal that means practically nothing. Just get a poor pitcher out of the way in order to provide more opportunities to try out the young guys. Take a flyer on a guy who may have some upside. I guess we could have held out for starting quality position player.
The FO has taken some risks... some have worked out and some have not. Not the first time... won't be the last. We will always have things to whine about, and some things to celebrate.
Oh yeah. They have done some things right along with their mistakes.
Ummm...I don't think he meant it, exactly. He's Trump's Twitter guy.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Ok, I am just putting this in here since this is the first HO/Dodger trade thread I came across.
I was thinking about this the other evening. But you now have to add Wentz to the trade since he is the product of the #40 pick. We know all the other pieces and how it all played out... but I started to think about how dumb it was of the Dodgers to give up that #40 pick. Think about their draft.. they already had the #20, #32,#36,#65 and #101 for rounds 1 -3. don't you think they could have gotten more value in this years draft by keeping the #40 draft pick than anything they picked up from the Braves? That would have given them 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.. 4 in the top 50!.. Now I know when the trade was made, they didn't have the #32 or #36 pick.. but they had to feel certain that they would at least lose one FA.. and If I was Freidman, I would have thought Anderson was the other.. So, just wonder if the dodger'$ fan base would look back at this trade and also say... What the heck where they thinking..
I was thinking about this the other evening. But you now have to add Wentz to the trade since he is the product of the #40 pick. We know all the other pieces and how it all played out... but I started to think about how dumb it was of the Dodgers to give up that #40 pick. Think about their draft.. they already had the #20, #32,#36,#65 and #101 for rounds 1 -3. don't you think they could have gotten more value in this years draft by keeping the #40 draft pick than anything they picked up from the Braves? That would have given them 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.. 4 in the top 50!.. Now I know when the trade was made, they didn't have the #32 or #36 pick.. but they had to feel certain that they would at least lose one FA.. and If I was Freidman, I would have thought Anderson was the other.. So, just wonder if the dodger'$ fan base would look back at this trade and also say... What the heck where they thinking..
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Tough call at some level. I don't think the Braves won the trade by any stretch of the imagination. Even if Olivera becomes a bench piece, he's not the guy they thought they were getting and Wood and Peraza certainly had more initial value than what came back. Wentz could soften the blow if he signs and develops and who knows what happens with Wood's arm or whether Peraza becomes an everyday player at the major league level. A lot of noise over next to nothing at this point and all that could change in either direction in the coming months.
Southcack77
Well-known member
I think the deal obviously didn't get back what the Braves were hoping for, but I don't think losing Wood or Peraza is much of a long term issue for the organization. Wood has not really helped LA, Peraza is still waiting on a chance.
Perhaps the Braves would rather have traded those assets for a different return, but that's not what they believed at the time. It's unclear what that other return might have been.
I think the pick probably was a major part of the deal for them as well given the circumstances. Oliveira would seem to have been a quality stop gap for a few years even under the best circumstances.
I don't think its a terribly noteworthy trade for either side. Little too much emotion tied up in Alex Wood from the fan side, I think.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Point of my post wasn't about the Brave's Fan side of it.. but rather the Dodger'$ side of it. If I am sitting there on June 9th in Dodger blue (first I would jump off a bridge)... but I would be thinking.. man, if we didn't make that trade last year.. this draft could have been ridiculous.
I understand hind sight 20/20... but having that #40.. And personally... not having the #40 would have made the Draft play completely different for the Braves... I just like over thinking the little details of trades like this.
I understand hind sight 20/20... but having that #40.. And personally... not having the #40 would have made the Draft play completely different for the Braves... I just like over thinking the little details of trades like this.
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
I tend to think that when HO returns, they should stick him at 3b and see what happens. it's not like he can make his potential trade or on the field value much worse.
DirkPiggler
Well-known member
That's not a bad idea. We know he's not going to hit well enough for a corner outfield spot.
Another idea would be to give him a shot at his supposed natural position, 2nd base. The bat would be more likely to play there if he can handle the position defensively.
sturg33
I
I don't think it would have mattered too much... It's not like they could have gotten Wentz with that pick as they wouldn't have had enough money to sign him
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I think Jace Peterson should play almost every inning at 2B for the rest of the year (unless he totally stinks) and Olivera should get an extended look at 3B.