So many factors go into regular season wins and losses but facts are facts when it came to winning when it was most important the Giants are proven.
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So many factors go into regular season wins and losses but facts are facts when it came to winning when it was most important the Giants are proven.
Markakis is a bad defender
sturg33
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Well, illogical fans are are to debate with. moving on
ok thanks keith law
look in the mirror
sturg33
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I'm using pure numbers and facts. thethe is using postseason magical pixy dust
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Better Keith Law than Bill Shanks or a Bill Shanks flunkie...
a) you have to get to the post season and they do that
b) You have to have timely hitting and they do that
c) you have to have kick ass pitching and they do
Where is the pixy dust? The braves can't even make the playoffs and even if they do they suck. The Giants are built for the post season. Clutch players and kick ass pitching.
Who care how many games they won last year or in ever other year. They have won 3 WS. You are trying to compare the braves to think is the problem.
The braves team last year was never going to win. Frank Wren sucks and building a 25 man roster. Why some want to keep it and try to "go for it" one more time is beyond me.
You're the one trying to compare this Braves team to a team that has won 3 out of the last 5 world series. You need to look at yourself.
I haven't missed the point. You are trying to say look at the Giants, they lose around the same amount of games that the Braves did last year and they won the WS next year. You are making the connection that the Braves could do the same. What you fail to acknowledge is that hte Giants are proven and whether you believe in that or not I don't care. The facts are facts and the Giants have 3 trophies in the last 5 years to show how "clutch" they are.
sturg33
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The Braves are proven too. We've won more games than just about everybody in the last 5 years. I would have taken our chances next year.
You are an apologist who will defend whatever the org does. That's fine. But don't act like we didn't have the talent to get back to the post season. And that is all you can ask for. Unless we can borrow some of that pixie dust from SF
Sweet, we beat a lot of bad teams in our division over that time!
Let me know the last time the Braves won a postseason series before you mock what SF has accomplished the last five years.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
It isn't near as funny as Bill Shanks Markakis vs Heyward comps (especially as it relates to defense).
dak
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While, I disagree with the folks who wanted to keep the rentals and go for it, I think it's a defensible argument.
The premise that Markakis is as good a defender as Heyward though I do not find defensible. Certainly no statistical evaluation would suggest that, and I'd set the over / under on employed MLB scouts who think Markaks is a better defender at 2-3%.
The premise that Markakis is as good a defender as Heyward though I do not find defensible. Certainly no statistical evaluation would suggest that, and I'd set the over / under on employed MLB scouts who think Markaks is a better defender at 2-3%.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
BTW, I wouldn't mind signing Alexi Ogando if his medicals look okay enough. He could potentially give us another 5th starter option or solid bullpen arm if healthy. Further, Ogando wouldn't be a free agent again till 2017. So if we signed him to a low based one year deal with incentives, and he bounces back, then we'd still have him for 2016 too. Plus it would be a low risk move as long as the base salary isn't too much.
Good lord. Markakis is not a bad defender. Nobody is great compared to Heyward defensively but Markakis is solid.