Antifa

Yeah, all those murders in the street and cities that were burned and looted after the travel ban was announced . . . craaaaaaaaazy.
 
Julio3000 said:
Yeah, all those murders in the street and cities that were burned and looted after the travel ban was announced . . . craaaaaaaaazy.
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Thats the next step in the progression of the crazy leftist as they all out embrace communism.
 
thethe said:
Yup - Posted that in another thread. When anyone discusses the degradation of political discourse in this country all you have to understand is how significantly radicalized the left has become in 20 years. Studies have shown this and the above picture is a scary reality of where the left is in this country.
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Its true of both sides. The way the right tries to portray Obama is just shameful. I dont agree with much of what Obama did but he isnt this boogeyman the right wants to pretend he is. This kind of ignorance is how we get holocausts.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Its true of both sides. The way the right tries to portray Obama is just shameful. I dont agree with much of what Obama did but he isnt this boogeyman the right wants to pretend he is. This kind of ignorance is how we get holocausts.
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But the studies show the right has not moved on their core pinciples for quite some time.

The rhetoric has absolutely been escalated to an absurd level but actual policy stances have not changed much.
 
Can you link me one of those studies?

Also, are we talking republican policies when a democrat is in office or republican policies when a republican is in office because there is a big difference.

And what time frame are we talking about here?
 
cajunrevenge said:
Can you link me one of those studies?

Also, are we talking republican policies when a democrat is in office or republican policies when a republican is in office because there is a big difference.

And what time frame are we talking about here?
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I posted another article that is more direct that I am trying to find but here is one that summarizes it well:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/symmetric-polarization/544059/

It is undeniable that the democrats have changed their stance on many core issues.
 
thethe said:
Thats the next step in the progression of the crazy leftist as they all out embrace communism.
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Let's look back at the implementation of the travel ban.

It was intentionally rolled out with maximum ambiguity to cast the widest net, and on a weekend to cause the largest disruption. It divided families and trapped small children and elderly adults in airports both here and worldwide. It was widely viewed as poorly constructed and inhumane. It encountered a loud, passionate, but nonviolent resistance. In my community, protest and resistance was organized by an interfaith group of local clergy--Christian, Muslim, and Jewish.

The order was stayed by the courts and its original form was rescinded.

Yet somehow you're trying to use that as some kind of evidence of radicalization, violence, degradation of discourse, etc?

Also, I'd suggest reading up on some historical periods of social unrest in this country before saying stuff like this. Sturg, too. You guys have clearly never read much about the 1960s.
 
Julio3000 said:
Let's look back at the implementation of the travel ban.

It was intentionally rolled out with maximum ambiguity to cast the widest net, and on a weekend to cause the largest disruption. It divided families and trapped small children and elderly adults in airports both here and worldwide. It was widely viewed as poorly constructed and inhumane. It encountered a loud, passionate, but nonviolent resistance. In my community, protest and resistance was organized by an interfaith group of local clergy--Christian, Muslim, and Jewish.

The order was stayed by the courts and its original form was rescinded.

Yet somehow you're trying to use that as some kind of evidence of radicalization, violence, degradation of discourse, etc?

Also, I'd suggest reading up on some historical periods of social unrest in this country before saying stuff like this. Sturg, too. You guys have clearly never read much about the 1960s.
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Yeah - More leftist radicalization in the 60s and we are seeing the residuals of that now as they continues to liberalize the education system.

I'm sorry but while the concerns of these protestors are valid the overall security of the American people is paramount. The majority of the American people always supported a travel ban.
 
thethe said:
Yeah - More leftist radicalization in the 60s and we are seeing the residuals of that now as they continues to liberalize the education system.

I'm sorry but while the concerns of these protestors are valid the overall security of the American people is paramount. The majority of the American people always supported a travel ban.
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First, I don't think that's true. Polling on the original EO came out mostly against it; subsequent polling of the revised EO has indicated majority support its central elements.

That's not what we're talking about, though. You're making some nutball generalized statements about protests and the left. I disagree. Instead of engaging on the relevant issue you pivot to your*opinion about "the security of the American people." Or are those actually "feelings" rather than opinions? ;-)

My point about the 60s was that there was radicalization and social unrest--emanating from different sides of the equation, also germane to my point--that far outstrips what we're seeing today.
 
The roll out was poor of course but the policy was right. We need to protect the American people.

I agree we don't have more violent protests but the radicalization of political beliefs are clear and that's more dangerous to the republic.
 
Antifa at it again. This time putting a 56 year old man in the hospital at nyc event last night.
 
I thought Trump was going to stop the violence? When Obama was in office they would say what is it he is doing to provoke violence when it happens. Now Trumps in charge. This is his America. He had forever lowered the bar.
 
The Rude Pundit
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Threats from a militia group in Oregon have led to a shutdown

of the state Senate session. How is this terrorism being allowed?

Why aren't we raiding these mother****ers and dragging them away?
 
You do realize one Democratic senator warned police to come heavily armed to round up the republican senators right?

All to impose more government control on the state citizens lives.
 
remind me the next time you go on and on about free speech to include the voters of Oregon. Who voted for these policies and armed terrorists have shut down the capital.
Their speech is guaranteed through the vote

wasn't it you that justified almost going to war over Iran sponsoring this sort of thing ?

This is the 2nd Amendment method Trump spoke of.
By your logic, Trump is a war criminal
 
57Brave said:
Oregon’s statehouse shut down for safety concerns on Saturday. But the threats weren’t coming from anonymous trolls or foreign fighters—they were coming from the state’s Republican senators, who have teamed up with right-wing militias to threaten violence over a climate change bill.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/orego...wmakers-flee-team-up-with-right-wing-militias
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The Daily Beast is not a news source I would cite. That article is a great reason why. It is torturing facts to fit a narrative.
 
some pussy 2nd amendment lovers still scared of people that were formed cause they are anti-fascists lol
 
striker42 said:
The Daily Beast is not a news source I would cite. That article is a great reason why. It is torturing facts to fit a narrative.
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we have an armed take over of a State House and all you took from the report was you didn't like the publication
The who,whats ,whens and wheres are apparently correct -- but your comment is on the tone
Gotcha

Then there is this:
The bill faded away until this year. On Wednesday, after it had passed through the state legislature, Gov. Kay Ivey signed a bill that allows Briarwood Presbyterian to create its own police force to enforce the law at its church and school campuses. The bill allows the church to “appoint and employ one or more suitable persons to act as police officers to keep off intruders and prevent trespass upon and damage to the property …These persons shall be charged with all the duties and invested with all the powers of police officers, including the power of arrest for unlawful acts committed on the property.” The law is set to come into effect this fall.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-allowing-church-to-have-its-own-police-force
 
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