Antifa

goldfly said:
Just think

There has been a lot of right wing people putting so much work into making people hate people for showing up to oppose Nazis and white supremacists

That you can almost forget that the Nazis and white supremacists killed a woman and injuries dozens with a car and pulled and shot their gun at a protester
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lol at you claiming they only are showing up at nazi rallies.

You've become such a joke
 
sturg33 said:
lol at you claiming they only are showing up at nazi rallies.

You've become such a joke
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They only fight Nazis

They only fight White Supremacists

They only fight Trump Supporters

They only fight against hate speech

They only fight against speech they don't like

They only fight against free speech

Is that the right progression? Oh wait, the **** that went down in Berkley months ago wasn't even against Nazis. I'm so confused....
 
seems very adaptable to the ones making excuses and by proxy backing the nazis and white supremacists

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
 
Well, you know the argument is won when your opponent pulls this out. Its like a derivative of Godwins Law.
 
goldfly said:
seems very adaptable to the ones making excuses and by proxy backing the nazis and white supremacists

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
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You support terrorists too so don't get on your high horse. In fact we all supported the founding fathers who are terrorists.

Who is and isn't a terrorist is semantics. Some people deserve to be terrorized. Like cops.
 
sturg33 said:
You are a sad old man.

If someone was beating me up like that and I had my gun I would shoot them, no questions asked.

Oh and speaking of "talking the talk":

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This was great and defines Antifa exceptionally well..

Dressed in black - with a mob - doing something illegal - screaming at police officers and calling them names - but "needs" a weird and unnecessary teddy bear like dog (that she has a right to)
 
I feel like there has to be enough nuance in this conversation to both admit that Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists are worse than counter-protestors and that counter-protestors practicing violence is still bad. I'm more inclined to give the counter-protestors the benefit of the doubt than I am Nazis, but there are still some people in that group that deserve some time behind bars.
 
Whether you agree with someone protesting or not, you don't have a right to use violence against them. Antifa shouldn't get a pass because you detest neoNazis.

You wouldn't give a hardcore southern baptist a pass if he went up and hit a satanist
 
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Krgrecw said:
Whether you agree with someone protesting or not, you don't have a right to use violence against them. Antifa shouldn't get a pass because you detest neoNazis.

You wouldn't give a hardcore southern baptist a pass if he went up and hit a satanist
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what a terrible analogy

and i will bet dollars to donuts the satanist would be protesting or speaking about equality for more people than the ****stick baptist

i come to that conclusion by the church of satan's twitter account and what they tweet btw
 
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