Around Baseball Offseason Edition - Derek Jeter will retire at seasons end

Wong is unproven, who knows if Carpenter can repeat this last year, and Bourjos has health/offensive questions.

Dont think the Rangers are dealing either especially with Kinsler gone.

Profar/Andrus is their MIF for the forseeable future, but...

The Cards do have a surplus of outfielders, the prospect they got looks to be pretty good though.

They do need a SS, maybe sign someone.

Cant go into the season with Kozma as SS.

The ENTIRE reason they made the deal was that they wanted to move Carpenter back to 3B to clear the way for Wong. Need to spend some free time reading about organizations other than ours.
 
Scott Sizemore outrighted by Oakland...wouldn't be a bad guy to take a flier on signing to a minor league deal with a spring training invite - could provide more 2B/3B competition during camp. Was pretty highly thought of before blowing the same knee out the last two springs.
 
If I was going to take a flyer on a Sizemore, it would be Grady. Wonder what he would cost on a 1 year with an option.

Wonder if John Hart could help in that.

Wonder what Justin Upton would bring TOR wise. Scherzer?
 
Scott Sizemore outrighted by Oakland...wouldn't be a bad guy to take a flier on signing to a minor league deal with a spring training invite - could provide more 2B/3B competition during camp. Was pretty highly thought of before blowing the same knee out the last two springs.

You don't think we have enough terrible options at second?
 
Scott Sizemore outrighted by Oakland...wouldn't be a bad guy to take a flier on signing to a minor league deal with a spring training invite - could provide more 2B/3B competition during camp. Was pretty highly thought of before blowing the same knee out the last two springs.

I actually like this idea. But not sure if he's really needed since Pena will be back. I think we need some LH pop off the bench.
 
The ENTIRE reason they made the deal was that they wanted to move Carpenter back to 3B to clear the way for Wong. Need to spend some free time reading about organizations other than ours.

Umm, i post on another board which has Cards fans.

I knew this all along as well, so get your facts straight, jack.
 
If I was going to take a flyer on a Sizemore, it would be Grady. Wonder what he would cost on a 1 year with an option.

Wonder if John Hart could help in that.

Wonder what Justin Upton would bring TOR wise. Scherzer?

Please god no.

Not that Detroit is trading him.
 
How can you say that with a name like Heyward. Do you really think we can keep both Heyward and JUp while being saddled with BJ?????

Scherzer is a FA after this year and will command around 16-20 million per year on an extension with BORAS as his agent.

Yes, we can keep both of them with BJ but it takes two to tango.
 
Scherzer is a FA after this year and will command around 16-20 million per year on an extension with BORAS as his agent.

Yes, we can keep both of them with BJ but it takes two to tango.

Dont think so if you want to go into the new stadium with a competitive team.
 
Wong is unproven, who knows if Carpenter can repeat this last year, and Bourjos has health/offensive questions.

Dont think the Rangers are dealing either especially with Kinsler gone.

Profar/Andrus is their MIF for the forseeable future, but...

The Cards do have a surplus of outfielders, the prospect they got looks to be pretty good though.

They do need a SS, maybe sign someone.

Cant go into the season with Kozma as SS.

Horrible contract.
 
Umm, i post on another board which has Cards fans.

I knew this all along as well, so get your facts straight, jack.

OK Jill...what "fact" is wrong???

There are two GMs I'd prefer to have running the Braves more than Frank Wren, and one of them just traded an unproductive David Freese for a Gold Glove caliber CF while making his team better at 3 positions AND cutting $3 million in salary commitments. (The other one got Wil Myers for 2 years of James Shields last winter.)

If those Cards' fans that post on whatever message board you frequent say anything differently, you might want to be rather careful after reading what they have to say before driving from your couch to your bed.
 
I actually like this idea. But not sure if he's really needed since Pena will be back. I think we need some LH pop off the bench.

Really just think he's another good camp invite - never enough competition at any position regardless of who's on your roster IMO.
 
OK Jill...what "fact" is wrong???

There are two GMs I'd prefer to have running the Braves more than Frank Wren, and one of them just traded an unproductive David Freese for a Gold Glove caliber CF while making his team better at 3 positions AND cutting $3 million in salary commitments. (The other one got Wil Myers for 2 years of James Shields last winter.)

If those Cards' fans that post on whatever message board you frequent say anything differently, you might want to be rather careful after reading what they have to say before driving from your couch to your bed.

I dont disagree on the GM's.

And most think its an ok trade but nothing to be that excited about.

For now...
 
It's definitely not a clear win for either team. David Freese may have been unproductive in 2013, but he was pretty damn solid in 2012. Defense has never been an issue. And he's still relatively cheap. Bourjos is not really appealing to me, don't see him lasting in a starting role in STL for too long. Stud defender, can't hit worth a lick. Prospects are interesting.
 
It's definitely not a clear win for either team. David Freese may have been unproductive in 2013, but he was pretty damn solid in 2012. Defense has never been an issue. And he's still relatively cheap. Bourjos is not really appealing to me, don't see him lasting in a starting role in STL for too long. Stud defender, can't hit worth a lick. Prospects are interesting.[/QUOTE]

Same feeling from me. Bourjos can really run, which makes him a very good defensive CF, but he's a real question mark with the bat. He looks like a 4th OF to me, but I will admit the Cards always seem to get value out of a guys and Bourjos has particular talents that can be manipulated into team value.
 
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