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NinersSBChamps said:
Debatable. Price is getting 30 million annually and he's a mid 4 ERA pitcher.
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So Price is a mid 4 ERA pitcher, even though this is the first year he's had an ERA over 3.59 since his rookie year in 2009? 3 of those years with an ERA under 3... Boston isn't the easiest home park to pitch in.
 
zbhargrove said:
So Price is a mid 4 ERA pitcher, even though this is the first year he's had an ERA over 3.59 since his rookie year in 2009? 3 of those years with an ERA under 3... Boston isn't the easiest home park to pitch in.
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I don't care what he did in 2011 or any season prior to this one. He signs a mega contract and all of sudden he's mediocre. Regardless of what he's done in the past his ERA is what it is and that's makes him a mid 4 pitcher right now.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
I don't care what he did in 2011 or any season prior to this one. He signs a mega contract and all of sudden he's mediocre. Regardless of what he's done in the past his ERA is what it is and that's makes him a mid 4 pitcher right now.
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Okay, when he signed the contract he was easily one of the top 5, if not top 3 pitchers in baseball... I'm sure he's probably sucking on purpose now.

And way to use ERA to back up your argument. God you are so baseball clueless.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
So he's worth 30 million a season then?
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Again... when he signed the deal, which is what his worth would have been based on unless the Red Sox had a magic crystal ball... he was one of the top 3-5 pitchers in baseball... its arguable he is certainly worth that to a team that has tons of disposable money.
 
zbhargrove said:
Okay, when he signed the contract he was easily one of the top 5, if not top 3 pitchers in baseball... I'm sure he's probably sucking on purpose now.

And way to use ERA to back up your argument. God you are so baseball clueless.
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And you are the typical advanced stats jerk who talks down to everyone who doesn't use your stats. ERA is a pretty standard benchmark for any pitcher. If using that makes me clueless then so is 99 percent of the baseball world.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
And you are the typical advanced stats jerk who talks down to everyone who doesn't use your stats. ERA is a pretty standard benchmark for any pitcher. If using that makes me clueless then so is 99 percent of the baseball world.
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It was a standard benchmark about 10 years ago...
 
zbhargrove said:
Again... when he signed the deal, which is what his worth would have been based on unless the Red Sox had a magic crystal ball... he was one of the top 3-5 pitchers in baseball... its arguable he is certainly worth that to a team that has tons of disposable money.
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He's pitched sub-par and has entered the 30 age bracket. He may have been a top 3-5 pitcher when he signed, but certainly isn't one now.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
He's pitched sub-par and has entered the 30 age bracket. He may have been a top 3-5 optic her when he signed, but certainly isn't one now.
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So if he was a top 3-5 pitcher when he signed, he was certainly worth it... Again, I guess the rich Red Sox should have had a magic crystal ball.
 
zbhargrove said:
So if he was a top 3-5 pitcher when he signed, he was certainly worth it... Again, I guess the rich Red Sox should have had a magic crystal ball.
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Or he got his fully guaranteed money and all of sudden he isn't as good as he was before.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
I don't care what he did in 2011 or any season prior to this one. He signs a mega contract and all of sudden he's mediocre. Regardless of what he's done in the past his ERA is what it is and that's makes him a mid 4 pitcher right now.
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Boston is a hitters park, so a 4.30 ERA isn't that bad. It's slightly over league average actually.

He had a rough first month or so. It happens sometimes when players switch teams (especially pitchers). But in his last 13 starts, he has a 3.25 ERA. Is hardly call that mediocre.
 
Carp said:
While it's a fairly small sample, he has been hitting .333 with a .805 OPS in 31 games since his return from the DL.
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He's always seemed to be very streaky at the plate. He is on one of his better streaks right now. Too bad the Braves gave up on him. I will always root for him and he's one of my favorite pkayers in the game.
 
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