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Pugfan said:
So would I but you need some power in the lineup. A lineup of Swanson, Mallex, Acuna, Albies, And Inciarte is pretty weak with power
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you could complement that ground with power at third, first and catcher and have a successful lineup
 
thewupk said:
And I would rather build a team around young position players than young pitchers. Your likely best case scenario if everything comes together is what the Mets had for a year or two.
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Or you turn it like the early 2000 A's or the Giants during their recent heyday, or the Cards...

Now obviously those teams had more than just dominant pitching, as each team had at least 1 MVP winner on their team. But they did have dominant pitching that was pretty much entirely home grown.
 
Carp said:
Or you turn it like the early 2000 A's or the Giants during their recent heyday, or the Cards...

Now obviously those teams had more than just dominant pitching, as each team had at least 1 MVP winner on their team. But they did have dominant pitching that was pretty much entirely home grown.
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You could. Which is more likely though? That's kind of the point. What is the best (most probable) way to build a good team?
 
thewupk said:
You could. Which is more likely though? That's kind of the point. What is the best (most probable) way to build a good team?
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I don't know that it's all that likely we would look like the Cubs 2-3 years ago either, even if we had focused on position players.

It has been said that pitching is easier to acquire and hitting is worth substantially more. But the last couple of off-seasons don't align with that opinion. The highest contracts have been going to the pitchers and the asking for front line starting pitching has been astronomical.
 
nsacpi said:
you could complement that ground with power at third, first and catcher and have a successful lineup
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It's hard to find a good power hitting catcher and 3rd base? 3rd base has been a joke since Chipper retired. The cheap Braves would have to spend money on a decent free agent for once. Or trade away a bunch of our good pitching prospects for one
 
What were Bonds War numbers during the early 2000s. Was thinking about that earlier today. Imagine they were up there.
 
Carp said:
I don't know that it's all that likely we would look like the Cubs 2-3 years ago either, even if we had focused on position players.

It has been said that pitching is easier to acquire and hitting is worth substantially more. But the last couple of off-seasons don't align with that opinion. The highest contracts have been going to the pitchers and the asking for front line starting pitching has been astronomical.
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The reason you have seen that the last couple of seasons is no true top tier position player has hit the market in their prime. Expect that to change with Machado and Harper.

Position prospects are safer and as a result have better return rates. That is a historical fact. The Braves are in a good spot because they do have quite a few position players even with a lot of pitchers.
 
thewupk said:
Again if they are overall good players it would be fine. 2014 Royals ranked last in power, 21st in offense, 4th in defense and 11th overall in WAR.

Obviously power helps a lot but I look more for whoever brings a better overall package.
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The team would like the 1985 cardinals. It would be a lot of fun to watch. That 1985 Cards team was my favorite team to watch as a kid.
 
thewupk said:
The reason you have seen that the last couple of seasons is no true top tier position player has hit the market in their prime. Expect that to change with Machado and Harper.

Position prospects are safer and as a result have better return rates. That is a historical fact. The Braves are in a good spot because they do have quite a few position players even with a lot of pitchers.
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Interestingly, the best trade the Braves made by far, was acquiring two position prospects in Swanson and Ender.

I don't even count the HO trade because someone had to have been drunk to make that
 
sturg33 said:
Interestingly, the best trade the Braves made by far, was acquiring two position prospects in Swanson and Ender.

I don't even count the HO trade because someone had to have been drunk to make that
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That likely applies to the Swanson/Ender trade as well.
 
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