chop2chip
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If Dansby somehow came in first we could have five Braves from last year’s putrid offense starting the all star game.
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If Dansby somehow came in first we could have five Braves from last year’s putrid offense starting the all star game.
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The Nats pulled the early move because they are scared. Yes...great move, but it also speaks of desperation.
Remember....AA has hinted that we may not be able to add much payroll this year. He may not have much flexibility. No one thought we would be this good, so I’m sure he wasn’t too worried about having payroll maxed out this year.
Remember....AA has hinted that we may not be able to add much payroll this year. He may not have much flexibility. No one thought we would be this good, so I’m sure he wasn’t too worried about having payroll maxed out this year.
msstate7
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Well if we add moose, familia, or even machado, wouldn't their team want to pay the salary to maximize return?
Exactly. The Nats can take on salary and give up less. We might have to pay more because we CAN’T take on salary.
It would really benefit us to move one or both of McCarthy or Julio to free up payroll.
I’m afraid we will either be disappointed in the lack of moves or what we have to give up for what we receive, because of payroll concerns.
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Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
I cannot blame AA if there isn't room for the 4.4 million left on his contract.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Could have asked KC to eat it and offer a better prospect package.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
He may have, but they might of wanted to save the money more.
Actually more reason for hope and confidence IMO.
If AA's not convinced any acquisitions - particularly rentals - will push this team over the top, don't simply "give away" assets. Don't get into a bidding war for guys like Herrera and Machado if you're not convinced they make you legitimate threats to Houston, the Yankees, or Boston - who gives a *hit about beating Washington in the NL East this year if you have to gut your system? Adding Herrera alone wouldn't have caused the Astros, Yankees, or Sox to lose a minute's sleep - and I'm not convinced adding Machado makes them scared of us either (although it would come much closer).
Trading for someone who's going to walk away this winter to give you a little better shot at winning the NL in 2018 is pretty pointless. If you can get a rental for next to nothing, that's fine - just don't go giving up Top 10-15 (and maybe even Top 20) prospects if you're not getting someone back that can help you in 2019 and later.
Sit back and enjoy the ride the present team has taken us on so far and see how much further it goes. Go fill holes with all that money this winter.
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Giving up a couple FV 40s in their early 20s and a random 17 year old arm is gutting the farm?
Folks are getting a little too greedy with prospects around here lol.
It could very well be that the Braves couldn’t afford the $4M owed to Herrera.
Another wildcard in trades with teams like KC and the Os is that they live in the 90s and quite possibly valued the guys from the Nats much higher than everyone else. Maybe AA did offer a package of similar value, and KC simply preferred the Nats’ players.
Probably a combination of several reasons. I expect AA to make 1-2 additions that represent good value, so I’m not too upset at missing on this BP arm.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
A third possibility is that KC is dumping payroll. They've got the Gordon and Kennedy albatross contracts that likely can't be moved. They were routinely under $100M in payroll until their fleeting success drove their number up. There's a good chance the word has come down to cut payroll and fast.
If you can get Machado for a non-top 10 prospect, you do it all day every single day.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
It's not a huge deal, still alot of players left for the Braves to get, but feels like a missed opportunity at the cost it came.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
I wouldnt go gut the farm or anything but if Machado can be had for like Fried, Allard, and some lesser pieces, i'd still do that.
zbhargrove
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Except Moose isn't even an upgrade
zbhargrove
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Why Mous? He doesn't add anything? It's making a deal just to make a deal
zbhargrove
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If AA isn't convinced that Machado (MVP type player) and an elite bullpen arm could push the team over the top, he needs help. And if you can't see that, you do too.
If he's cheap enough, he presents an upgrade at 3b (though a slight one) and he deepens the bench. He very clearly would add value to this team. Considering the return for Herrera, we may be able to get Moose for Dustin Peterson level players.