msstate7
Well-known member
To be fair, the obsession seems to go both ways between these 2
Around the League: 2017 offseason edition / 2018 Season
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To be fair, the obsession seems to go both ways between these 2
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
FTFY
to be fair fair, enscheff also said if used right, kemp could have value. we just didn't use him right.
I did find it odd the one thing he is trying to mock enscheff about is the one thing he said we should do to get proper value out of him. Looks like he was right...again.
That said. It's undeniable Kemp was not a good player the past few years despite what he's done the first 2 months of the season this year.
msstate7
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Wish we had. He is at 2.1 fWAR (same as markakis). Our lineup would be sick with this level of kemp behind FF.
Would of needed a smart GM to do that
I always loved Tron but nobody and I mean nobody would have predicted this offensive development.
Kemp crashed because he got hurt last year. Now if you are telling me he will get hurt again then I would not disagree with that. But, if healthy and used properly Kemp will mash.
Dodgers have just been lucky (as usual). Kemp will turn into “fat double play” Kemp with the first hamstring pull...which is past due to happen. Dodgers will probably be lucky and he will stay healthy until the trade deadline...which will allow them to move him.
I am 110% glad we moved him. NO way he stays heathy for two years. His cash will be off the books this year and McCarthy and Culberson have produced for us.
Remember how fast he went from “mashing monster” to literally unplayable last year.
So he was hurt the last 4 years?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Actually he's shown signs of it all his career. He's due for a cold spell to normalize a bit, but he's shown signs in the past of putting everything together and being a complete hitter to go with a legendary defender.
zbhargrove
Well-known member
Those are def the odds... people forget how on fire Kemp was the first part of last year also
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Kemp has been hurt ever since leaving LA? That's convenient of him
Kemp is posting a .400 BABIP. When it inevitably falls his average will fall as well. He'll probably have a total number similar to his total in 2016 or 2015 which are OK, except his defense is terrible.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Or how hot he was after coming from San Diego to Atlanta. Kemp goes on feast and famine streaks. It's what often happens to High K/Low BB power hitters.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Kemp at .400 BABIP is valuable even with the defensive shortcomings. Kemp at .300 BABIP is a replacement level player.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Yeah, I always thought Tron had the tools to be an above-average hitter. He's strong, smart, and has otherworldly spatial intelligence and hand-eye. I'm not surprised at all to see him hitting now. I'm just glad that Newk is showing hopeful signs of being a stud.
msstate7
Well-known member
His fWAR is being driven by more than babip. He's at -1.9 def value right now through 59 games... over 150 games that's approx -4.8. Here are his def values on fangraphs the last few years...
2017 = -14.1 (115 games)
2016 = -19.0 (156 games)
2015 = -18.7 (154 games)
2014 = -17.5 (150 games)
If the dodgers can keep Kemp's def value at this pace, kemp will be valuable even as babip drops
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Even if Simmons regresses back to the hitter he was with the Braves and Newk wins 5 Cy Youngs, I won't like the trade. I've never enjoyed watching a player in any sport more than I enjoyed watching Simmons play defense.
Newk does look good though.