Around the League 2020 Edition

Super said:
is there something wrong with the entire process/development of pitching throughout the Braves org?
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DK was pretty much the same pitcher he's always been. Gaus was a mystery. Always wondered if there was more we didn't know.
 
Meh, DK was fine last year. 3ish ERA, went 6 innings usually. Did his job. Gausman had too good of stuff to be as bad as he was though.
 
It's easy to blame the development staff for the young guys, but for veterans brought in to plug holes, not so much.
 
With Walker gone, it'd be really interesting to see what a deal for Seager by himself would cost us. Does Riley get him by himself? Touki by himself?
 
clvclv said:
With Walker gone, it'd be really interesting to see what a deal for Seager by himself would cost us. Does Riley get him by himself? Touki by himself?
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Probably depends on how much of the remaining salary we're looking to pick up
 
CyYoung31 said:
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Not sure if these are from BRef’s own formula or someone else’s.
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Would certainly add to the argument that AA should only be looking to improve around the edges - for any short-term additions. The problem is those closest to us (as well as the AL contenders) are looking for exactly the same thing - cheaply attainable rotation help. Given that, the question becomes "would AA be better off looking to add the TOR arm now?"

No one else is likely going to be looking to deal from their top prospects AND the few sellers already out there in a season like this might well be open to deals that are slightly more quantity over quality. If you actually could get Lynn or Clevinger without including Pache, Waters, or Anderson, how much better would our chances to beat the Dodgers be and how much distance would you put between yourself and the rest of the field. With this offense and pen, does adding a legitimate TOR partner for Fried give you a legitimate shot at knocking off the Dodgers?
 
Manfred is an absolute joke. He wants the Mets to leave the field and then come back later to play? How clueless can you be. Read the room, asshat.

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clvclv said:
Would certainly add to the argument that AA should only be looking to improve around the edges - for any short-term additions. The problem is those closest to us (as well as the AL contenders) are looking for exactly the same thing - cheaply attainable rotation help. Given that, the question becomes "would AA be better off looking to add the TOR arm now?"

No one else is likely going to be looking to deal from their top prospects AND the few sellers already out there in a season like this might well be open to deals that are slightly more quantity over quality. If you actually could get Lynn or Clevinger without including Pache, Waters, or Anderson, how much better would our chances to beat the Dodgers be and how much distance would you put between yourself and the rest of the field. With this offense and pen, does adding a legitimate TOR partner for Fried give you a legitimate shot at knocking off the Dodgers?
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We'd need Hamels to come back and Anderson to keep pitching well. Dont know if one more top arm puts us with/near LAD. Dodgers would tee off of Tomlin, Erlin, etc.

Looking at 21, Anderson/Fried/Soroka with a FA SP, and keeping Ozuna/bullpen in tact puts very near the Dodgers though.
 
Heyward said:
We'd need Hamels to come back and Anderson to keep pitching well. Dont know if one more top arm puts us with/near LAD. Dodgers would tee off of Tomlin, Erlin, etc.

Looking at 21, Anderson/Fried/Soroka with a FA SP, and keeping Ozuna/bullpen in tact puts very near the Dodgers though.
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You'd never see Tomlin and Erlin in a playoff series - that's the reason I ask. Does a Lynn or Clevinger/Fried/Anderson/possibly Hamels or Folty give you enough to knock off the Dodgers in a 7 game series? If not, are you really willing to give up a Wright/Touki/Wilson to get someone to pair with Fried and Anderson to MAYBE win one series this year? Keep in mind that you're going to have to outbid everyone else for a handful of starts from the mediocre Gausmans of the world we've been talking about. If that's the case, you could make the argument AA would be better off crossing his fingers for Hamels and Folty and keeping everybody.

At some point he's going to have to go outside of the organization for help - getting a group of Soroka/Fried/Anderson out of the rebuild is far from a failure IMO since it takes so many pitching prospects to come up with 3 legitimate MLB SPs from within, but the well appears to be dry and you still have a black hole at 3B.
 
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