CyYoung31
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He’s been jerked back and forth because he’s sucks. Y’all need to give it up on this hoping that Sean Newcomb amounts to anything substantial.
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He’s been jerked back and forth because he’s sucks. Y’all need to give it up on this hoping that Sean Newcomb amounts to anything substantial.
Your mom has been jerking me back and forth and sucking too
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
The Narrator: The BB rate didn’t fall.
lol he needs to have his own guys checked. Max is a future HOFer.
No idea why anyone would expect less going forward.
EVERY Pitcher has been labeled a "cheater" - if you're going to check one, YOU HAVE TO check them all. Does anybody honestly think Scherzer has been loading the baseball? Of course not.
The problem is everybody that hit a ball over the fence used to get labeled as a "juicer" .
You can't "randomly check" everyone if you decide to give the "best" guys a pass - I agree 100% with checking everyone randomly once, not just in the 1st or 9th inning, but a completely random and unannounced check ONCE. If they pass, leave them the *ell alone and realize that the reason your hitters strike out 12 times a game is because that's the way the game is taught now and that "strikeouts don't matter". Keep your happy *ss in the dugout and have a nice day.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
It wasn’t a random check. Girardi had him checked MID INNING three times in the first 4 innings. Girardi was doing it to **** with him.
CrimsonCowboy
Moderator
Manfred has turn MLB into a circus. I wasn’t a fan of Selig, but I’ll take him back as commissioner now
Girardi is probably just a douche. But if I'm a manager, I'm making a mockery out of this fiasco every night because Manfred deserves every bit of it. I would check every pitcher multiple times just to give Manfred a big eff you.
Hitters really don't care about sticky ****. Ask any hitter. I know a handful of guys who either used to play or currently play in the minors/majors. All of them know 100% it is used. All of them said no one cared.
Tapate50
Well-known member
Manfreds the worst.
Anyone see Acuna basically bathing himself in spray in the OD circle tonight? Kinda ironic
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
You mean nobody like JT Realmuto and Adam Duvall?
Tapate50
Well-known member
FWIW, Girardi was jawing with his former coach with the Yanks Kevin Long not really Max. Long was screaming "**** You" to him and Girardi walked out telling KLong to come out and meet him.
Still a douche move. Girardi coming out at all was dumb as hell. He should have been run.
They didn’t care because they didn’t know the advantage gained by dramatically increasing spin rate. Pitchers also weren’t using the exotic stuff like spider tack back then because it didn’t exist. In fact, I bet all those guys in your poll still don’t know about it, and spend most of their time talking about “back in my day”.
WaitingFor2017
Well-known member
Zach Wheeler needs to be checked 5 times in his next start. I'm sure Girardi would blow a gasket.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Your mom allows extra sauce from juiced balls.
McCann'sCans
Gwinnett Bound
I used to work in the Durham Bulls clubhouse back in the day and remember talking to Josh Leuke about this. I remember being shocked when he told me that without sunscreen and rosin he would have absolutely no idea where the ball was going, and the position players standing nearby (one of whom was Brooks Conrad of all people) basically said they were glad pitchers used sunscreen so they didn't have to worry as much about control issues.
I also remember being shocked at a) just how slick the new pearls were when we took them out of the box and b) the inconsistencies created by people like me rubbing baseballs down with mud before games- some of us used a lot, some used a little, but there was no standardization. Just put some mud on the balls and collect some cash from the umps in exchange.
If I were a pitcher, I would've been looking for a way to create some tackiness and consistency too. That said, they obviously took the advantage too far with Spider Tack and the like, and now that spin rates are so ubiquitous we were due for a correction.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I only have so much sympathy for the argument that sunscreen and rosin is needed. If that was the case, just put that in the rule.
If it's so great, someone should have made the mixture and sold it.
The problem likely is that during a game there is no way to tell if the sticky stuff is SpiderTack, rosin and sunscreen or anything else. It is either a foreign substance or it is not.
Pitchers and teams (Astros) knew what they were doing. They got greedy and ruined it for everyone else.
I think the easy answer to this is MLB makes a mix and says this is what you are allowed to use. You put a tub of it on the back of the mound instead of the rosin bag.
If it's so great, someone should have made the mixture and sold it.
The problem likely is that during a game there is no way to tell if the sticky stuff is SpiderTack, rosin and sunscreen or anything else. It is either a foreign substance or it is not.
Pitchers and teams (Astros) knew what they were doing. They got greedy and ruined it for everyone else.
I think the easy answer to this is MLB makes a mix and says this is what you are allowed to use. You put a tub of it on the back of the mound instead of the rosin bag.