Around the League - 2021 Szn

bravesfanMatt said:
if populations are really shifting, wouldn't they just be still fans of their original team? It would take generations to build true loyal fans from just population shifts.
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Thats fine - You have to get these families when they have kids.

But no question you are right that it would take time but you have to start somewhere.
 
thethe said:
Thats fine - You have to get these families when they have kids.

But no question you are right that it would take time but you have to start somewhere.
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But that's another what, multi decade commitment that may never even pan out. The issue is that they really need a new stadium. It seems like all the warning signs are there to not continue to keep a team in Tampa.

Also, don't parents usually raise their children to be fans of the team they root for? So that's kind of irrelevant.
 
NYCBrave said:
But that's another what, multi decade commitment that may never even pan out. The issue is that they really need a new stadium. It seems like all the warning signs are there to not continue to keep a team in Tampa.

Also, don't parents usually raise their children to be fans of the team they root for? So that's kind of irrelevant.
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Parents like activities for kids. Taking them to local game is good activity.

They'll generally pull for the team they see the most.
 
If you have never been to a game at Tropicana there is just no way to understand just how ****ty the whole experience is. Imagine playing a baseball game in a huge basement if you can. But that is only after another ****ty experience trying to get there from Tampa. The drive from Bradenton is nice until tho.
 
Southcack77 said:
Parents like activities for kids. Taking them to local game is good activity.

They'll generally pull for the team they see the most.
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The Rays have been around since 1998. So why in the past 23 years have they not been able to attract these kids in families? What's so different in the next 20 years?
 
NYCBrave said:
The Rays have been around since 1998. So why in the past 23 years have they not been able to attract these kids in families? What's so different in the next 20 years?
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Since 2000 Tampa has grown at a rate of 33%. That is tremendous growth and its only growing more based on recent events.
 
NYCBrave said:
The Rays have been around since 1998. So why in the past 23 years have they not been able to attract these kids in families? What's so different in the next 20 years?
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Maybe the park is really inconveniently located or lacking in fun kid stuff to do.

I'm not sure why it doesn't work for the Rays but just saying parent team preferences don't always carry over if the kid sees a different team.

I think the Braves might be the only team my dad and I had in common. Though I think his childhood team was the Red Sox because they were available on radio in South in the 40s? Is that possible?
 
thethe said:
Since 2000 Tampa has grown at a rate of 33%. That is tremendous growth and its only growing more based on recent events.
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And unfortunately their attendance peaked in 2009, and pretty much has been on a downward plane ever since. So population growth hasn't been helping their attendance at all.
 
Southcack77 said:
Maybe the park is really inconveniently located or lacking in fun kid stuff to do.

I'm not sure why it doesn't work for the Rays but just saying parent team preferences don't always carry over if the kid sees a different team.

I think the Braves might be the only team my dad and I had in common. Though I think his childhood team was the Red Sox because they were available on radio in South in the 40s? Is that possible?
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Oh I definitely agree about the team preference part. We don't have any stats on that type of thing so it's all speculative. Personally, my dad is a big Yankees fan. My brother took on the Yankees, but I latched on to the Braves ( thanks TBS).

I'm actually raising my son as a Braves and Yankees fan (we live pretty close to the stadium), but when he's old enough he can choose whatever he wants.
 
zbhargrove said:
Dodgers are about to sign Shane Greene... that means he's about to be a shut down reliever again...
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Nice, we actually save a few bucks:

The Braves will remain on the hook for the bulk of Greene’s prorated $1.5MM salary, with the Dodgers paying the veteran just the prorated league minimum for the stretch run (which will be subtracted from Atlanta’s payroll).
 
NYCBrave said:
Oh I definitely agree about the team preference part. We don't have any stats on that type of thing so it's all speculative. Personally, my dad is a big Yankees fan. My brother took on the Yankees, but I latched on to the Braves ( thanks TBS).

I'm actually raising my son as a Braves and Yankees fan (we live pretty close to the stadium), but when he's old enough he can choose whatever he wants.
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Pretty funny. My Dad went to a really small school in Tennessee on a baseball scholarship waaaay back when and he grew up a Yankees fan, but my Grandmother might have been as committed to the Braves as anyone I'd ever met when I was young - I got it from her. Pitched the biggest fits to get to go to her house about 35 minutes away on weekends because we didn't have cable and she had TBS (and when ESPN got its start). She spawned 3 absolute Braves nuts out of the 5 grandsons - she'd lay blankets out across the floor of her living room when the Braves went off and we'd stay up all night watching rodeo on ESPN.
 
See, sometimes it helps to have a faceless owner rather than one being too involved...

With the Mets' season in danger of slipping away, owner Steve Cohen was brutally honest while tweeting on Wednesday morning.

"It’s hard to understand how professional hitters can be this unproductive," Cohen tweeted. "The best teams have a more disciplined approach. The slugging and OPS numbers don’t lie."
 
NYCBrave said:
See, sometimes it helps to have a faceless owner rather than one being too involved...

With the Mets' season in danger of slipping away, owner Steve Cohen was brutally honest while tweeting on Wednesday morning.

"It’s hard to understand how professional hitters can be this unproductive," Cohen tweeted. "The best teams have a more disciplined approach. The slugging and OPS numbers don’t lie."
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DAMN.
 
NYCBrave said:
See, sometimes it helps to have a faceless owner rather than one being too involved...

With the Mets' season in danger of slipping away, owner Steve Cohen was brutally honest while tweeting on Wednesday morning.

"It’s hard to understand how professional hitters can be this unproductive," Cohen tweeted. "The best teams have a more disciplined approach. The slugging and OPS numbers don’t lie."
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Lol.

I'd be pissed too though if I pumped that money into them and they collapse
 
I'll be honest, if I was a multi-billionaire MLB owner, I would absolutely be tweeting and posting the entire time. Like, during games. "Oh, nice at-bat, Ozzie. First pitch pop-up to second. How original."
 
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