Around the Majors - 2022 Version

Carp said:
Was just about to post this. Really hate that we gave up on him for practically nothing as he would look really nice in LF right now. K rate still high, but his BB rate is over 11%, so it evens out a bit. He has looked really ugly on some of those k's though.

While his current line isn't sustainable, he only needs to OPS around .700-.750 to be valuable with his defense and base running. Surprisingly, he hasn't attempted a stolen base yet.
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I understood the Waters deal. Braves pitching depth in the low minors just stinks and Ritchie is a solid prospect.

It appears Waters did need a change of scenery, but everyone in the world would go broke betting on the late-season performance of guys. Watched a couple of Royals' games online and it's easy to see why Waters is interesting. He's just one of those toolsy guys who glides around the field, but that doesn't always translate. Contact skills are still pretty bad. Curious to see if there's any carryover in 2023. Like you say, he still could at least be a pretty good 4th OF if he can hit at all.

Cusick missed a big part of the season with an oblique injury, which probably isn't that rare for a guy who throws 100. He's in the Arizona Fall League, most likely to pick up innings.
 
Russ2dollas said:
I like Waters more that most. I loved the tools and as you mentioned, the defense in LF raised the floor. Plus I've disliked our LF options for years.

I'm not sold. Shocked the walk rate is that high given his aggregate data. That K rate is not sustainable. I think he's going to take a hard fall.

Hope the draft works out.
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Best case scenario for him is probably someone like Teoscar Hernandez or Jackie Bradley Jr, which is pretty solid while he's cheap. More likely scenario is Drew Stubbs, which still fairly valuable while he's cheap.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Thanks for putting it together.

The bigger bags may make Langeliers' arm more valuable if the running game picks up. I think he's going to be good, but i don't think he's an impact bat. I do think he can be a 750 OPS with elite defense and that is a very valuable player.
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What's interesting about Langaliers is Fangraphs rates his defense this year as a negative. He also is sporting a 36% K rate currently, so he will need to improve that.
 
mfree80 said:
32% K rate is a huge red flag. It would keep me from using the word "excelling" to describe Waters.
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Obviously unless he gets the k rate down, he will have a hard time being a successful player. But, which of these stats is not "excelling" so far?

.261/.350/.523
.375 wOBA
144 wrc+
.261 iso
11.9% bb

Again, they'll almost certainly all go down, but it's ok to give a guy props while he is "excelling"
 
NYCBrave said:
What's interesting about Langaliers is Fangraphs rates his defense this year as a negative. He also is sporting a 36% K rate currently, so he will need to improve that.
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I believe the poor defensive rating may be because he’s been used in the DH spot a lot. The A’s spent a lot of time with the 3 Catcher offense
 
It's limited. But Shea so far has shown a great pop time but below average framer.

BTW TDA has the 3rd most framing rund this year. Which should answer why he's gotten a bulk of the catching starts down the stretch.
 
thewupk said:
It's limited. But Shea so far has shown a great pop time but below average framer.

BTW TDA has the 3rd most framing rund this year. Which should answer why he's gotten a bulk of the catching starts down the stretch.
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What's Contreras?
 
NYCBrave said:
What's interesting about Langaliers is Fangraphs rates his defense this year as a negative. He also is sporting a 36% K rate currently, so he will need to improve that.
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Framing will have less significance w/ robo umps.

Scouting has been consistent that SL is very good on Defense. I think that data is very SSS for defensive metrics. Plus he's new to the big leagues and all of those pitchers.
 
Enscheff said:
101 PAs
.360 BABIP
26.3% HR/FB

We've seen this small sample size story before...

Is anyone still being tricked by it?
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It's damn sight better than he was showing in AAA this year. While the current level isn't sustainable, is there reason to assume he can't maintain near league average offense? Particularly with his speed, his current BABIP isn't significantly higher than one might expect.
 
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Carp said:
It's damn sight better than he was showing in AAA this year. While the current level isn't sustainable, is there reason to assume he can't maintain near league average offense? Particularly with his speed, his current BABIP isn't significantly higher than one might expect.
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I would suggest checking out the MLB leaderboard for current BABIP leaders in 2022, then rethink your idea that speed is the driving force behind high BABIPs.

Waters is not good, and when the BABIP crashes and the FBs stay in the park his numbers will come crashing down. Just like they always do for every single player getting unsustainable results.
 
Enscheff said:
I would suggest checking out the MLB leaderboard for current BABIP leaders in 2022, then rethink your idea that speed is the driving force behind high BABIPs.

Waters is not good, and when the BABIP crashes and the FBs stay in the park his numbers will come crashing down. Just like they always do for every single player getting unsustainable results.
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When did I say that speed was the driving force behind high BABIP's, or that his was sustainable?

It's simply a fact that fast players tends to have higher than normal BABIP's. It's also a fact that guys with higher EVs have a higher than normal BABIP. I
 
thewupk said:
It's limited. But Shea so far has shown a great pop time but below average framer.

BTW TDA has the 3rd most framing rund this year. Which should answer why he's gotten a bulk of the catching starts down the stretch.
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I don't know what Pina's career framing stats are, but I believe he was brought in because the Braves felt (and I could be wrong) that Contreras needed more polish in that area. It's rare that injuries help a team, but I can't help but wonder how the Braves would have fared had Pina and Duvall not gotten hurt and, as a result, Contreras and Harris II spent more time in the minors. I believe both Contreras and Harris II would have been with the big club at some juncture this season injuries to others or not. If anything, Duvall's injury saved Heredia.
 
50PoundHead said:
I don't know what Pina's career framing stats are, but I believe he was brought in because the Braves felt (and I could be wrong) that Contreras needed more polish in that area. It's rare that injuries help a team, but I can't help but wonder how the Braves would have fared had Pina and Duvall not gotten hurt and, as a result, Contreras and Harris II spent more time in the minors. I believe both Contreras and Harris II would have been with the big club at some juncture this season injuries to others or not. If anything, Duvall's injury saved Heredia.
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Sometimes blind luck helps too... I'd bet almost anything that the braves would've included contreas instead of langeliers it asked to
 
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