Autotune

yeezus said:
You have yet to demonstrate how autotune is overused in the genre. You gave two artists with 1 album that uses autotune. Kanye uses it in just a handful of songs after 808s, same with Wayne after Carter III. Please list more? If there are so many examples it should take two seconds each to think and list them.

The argument that hip-hop died in the 80s is just retarded. I don't even get the point of bringing that up or addressing it. You're trying to sound like you know the genre well when you don't. You just further prove you have no clue what you're talking about. Classic classic absolute classic albums came out in the 90s. Kanye has put out multiple classics and has redefined the genre. Just stop with your nonsense. But please do provide these plentiful examples of over usage.
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Actually it's not retarded, it's a belief that some hold. YOU think that classic albums happened in the 90s and 2000s, that's YOUR opinion. I was stating an opinion that someone else can have. As many lovers of 80s hip hop point out, the stuff you're talking about as Classic was probably the stuff that was marketed as alpha male friendly (NWA, Snoop, Dre, Biggie, Pac, etc.) and not following in the real message of hip hop which is about community and blah blah blah.

If you don't get my point that's fine, you won't because you're not getting it yet.
 
zitothebrave said:
Actually it's not retarded, it's a belief that some hold. YOU think that classic albums happened in the 90s and 2000s, that's YOUR opinion. I was stating an opinion that someone else can have. As many lovers of 80s hip hop point out, the stuff you're talking about as Classic was probably the stuff that was marketed as alpha male friendly (NWA, Snoop, Dre, Biggie, Pac, etc.) and not following in the real message of hip hop which is about community and blah blah blah.

If you don't get my point that's fine, you won't because you're not getting it yet.
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And you still won't list any other artists. It's ok to admit you were wrong. Even if you consider 808s hip-hop, that doesn't make it "overused." PLEASE list examples, PLEASE. Otherwise, concede you were wrong. I'm guessing neither will happen.

The opinion that real hip-hop died in the 80s is a very rare one, and plenty of hip-hop since then has been about community and blah blah blah.
 
I actually don't think T-Pain sounds bad at all. If anything, the acoustic set gives me a respect for him as an artist that I didn't have before.

 
Hawk said:
I actually don't think T-Pain sounds bad at all. If anything, the acoustic set gives me a respect for him as an artist that I didn't have before.

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That wouldn't be bad if it was a random guy singing on youtube but that's not good singing for a professional music artist.
 
Nas' Illmatic was 93, right?

Eminem's classics were after 97

Wutang and the Chronic were both early 90's

All of Jay Z's stuff was post-95

Lupe Fiasco came along in the 00's.

In fact, maybe I'm not very smart on the subject - but I know a lot more classics since the 90's then before.
 
Off-topic. But you know who produces some awesome hiphop?

Australians.

I'd highly recommend checking out Hilltop Hoods and Bliss & Eso.
 
yeezus said:
And you still won't list any other artists. It's ok to admit you were wrong. Even if you consider 808s hip-hop, that doesn't make it "overused." PLEASE list examples, PLEASE. Otherwise, concede you were wrong. I'm guessing neither will happen.

The opinion that real hip-hop died in the 80s is a very rare one, and plenty of hip-hop since then has been about community and blah blah blah.
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I could list artists but you won't call them real hip hop. It's not worth my time to discuss when someone puts unquantifiable qualifiers on something.
 
zitothebrave said:
As many lovers of 80s hip hop point out, the stuff you're talking about as Classic was probably the stuff that was marketed as alpha male friendly (NWA, Snoop, Dre, Biggie, Pac, etc.) and not following in the real message of hip hop which is about community and blah blah blah.
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That's discounting a good twenty-years of back-packer and Bay-area hip-hop that's arguably even more community-oriented and even less "alpha-male" than hip-hop of the 1980s.
 
jpx7 said:
That's discounting a good twenty-years of back-packer and Bay-area hip-hop that's arguably even more community-oriented and even less "alpha-male" than hip-hop of the 1980s.
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Oh I have no dog in the fight, just trying to point out the moronic qualifier "true"
 
zitothebrave said:
I could list artists but you won't call them real hip hop. It's not worth my time to discuss when someone puts unquantifiable qualifiers on something.
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LMAO so you don't have any. It's "not worth your time" but your senseless, false arguments were. Nice. Just try me? List some.
 
jpx7 said:
That's discounting a good twenty-years of back-packer and Bay-area hip-hop that's arguably even more community-oriented and even less "alpha-male" than hip-hop of the 1980s.
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He doesn't know what he's talking about. He threw that out there to make it sound like he did, and got called on it (again).
 
sturg33 said:
Nas' Illmatic was 93, right?

Eminem's classics were after 97

Wutang and the Chronic were both early 90's

All of Jay Z's stuff was post-95

Lupe Fiasco came along in the 00's.

In fact, maybe I'm not very smart on the subject - but I know a lot more classics since the 90's then before.
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Correct.
No one holds that opinion. It was a failed attempt to sound knowledgeable.
 
yeezus said:
LMAO so you don't have any. It's "not worth your time" but your senseless, false arguments were. Nice. Just try me? List some.
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Pretty much anything Young Money touches uses autotune, many things Timbaland produces on use autotune. Despite your protests Kanye has continued using Autotune afterwards. I'll drop a hint on you, basically everytime he sings in a song he's autotuned cause ****er can't sing. Could go on, but it's not worthwhile because you'll come in with the not real comment in 2 seconds.
 
yeezus said:
He doesn't know what he's talking about. He threw that out there to make it sound like he did, and got called on it (again).
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Nope, you're not seeing it at all. Congrats on having below thethe level critical thinking and reading comprehension.
 
zitothebrave said:
Pretty much anything Young Money touches uses autotune, many things Timbaland produces on use autotune. Despite your protests Kanye has continued using Autotune afterwards. I'll drop a hint on you, basically everytime he sings in a song he's autotuned cause ****er can't sing. Could go on, but it's not worthwhile because you'll come in with the not real comment in 2 seconds.
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Some YM uses autotune, some doesn't. That doesn't equate to "overuse," though.
I've said, repeatedly, that Kanye uses autotune after 808s. But only on a select few songs where he's not strictly rapping. So, not "every song" because he sure as hell doesn't autotune his raps. So, again, that doesn't equate to "overuse."

You just really don't know what you're talking about. Your assessment was incorrect.
 
So that dude signing is a professional artist and they call him T-Pain? Just trying to figure out thread.
 
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