Bachmanmania!

50PoundHead said:
Hey, this thread was about my lady, Michelle Bachmann! What happened? She's probably following this as a member of the House Intelligence Committee and is sorely disappointed that the discussion has turned away from her.
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She's a member of the House "Intelligence" Committee?????????????????????????????????? And we wonder why this country is falling apart!?!??!?!??
 
50PoundHead said:
Hey, this thread was about my lady, Michelle Bachmann! What happened? She's probably following this as a member of the House Intelligence Committee and is sorely disappointed that the discussion has turned away from her.
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Sorry but Sanger is much more interesting.
 
I actually think generally speaking that women are the dumbest voters of all the voters.

They get all up in arms about abortion, and buy into the "Romney is going to make my legal killing illegal!" and vote democrat. When, anyone with a brain understands that that law isn't going anywhere, no matter how pro-life the President is (Regan, Bush, Bush...)

It's amazing to me that any voter would put issues like ***-marriage and abortion over issues like economics, health care, or national defense. But that is how the liberals have shifted the argument and they are quite good at the scare-tactics.
 
sturg33 said:
I actually think generally speaking that women are the dumbest voters of all the voters.

They get all up in arms about abortion, and buy into the "Romney is going to make my legal killing illegal!" and vote democrat. When, anyone with a brain understands that that law isn't going anywhere, no matter how pro-life the President is (Regan, Bush, Bush...)

It's amazing to me that any voter would put issues like ***-marriage and abortion over issues like economics, health care, or national defense. But that is how the liberals have shifted the argument and they are quite good at the scare-tactics.
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The only thing Dummicrats can rely on, scare tactics. They are lost when it comes to fiscal responsibility which the Repukans are just a tad a bit above in responsibility (war machine and in bed with big business), but even they suck, but not as much.
 
sturg33 said:
I actually think generally speaking that women are the dumbest voters of all the voters.

They get all up in arms about abortion, and buy into the "Romney is going to make my legal killing illegal!" and vote democrat. When, anyone with a brain understands that that law isn't going anywhere, no matter how pro-life the President is (Regan, Bush, Bush...)

It's amazing to me that any voter would put issues like ***-marriage and abortion over issues like economics, health care, or national defense. But that is how the liberals have shifted the argument and they are quite good at the scare-tactics.
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Actually that's not true at all. President sets the SC and unless there's a constitutional Amendment allowing abortion an old ruling can always be overturned/revised.
 
zitothebrave said:
Actually that's not true at all. President sets the SC and unless there's a constitutional Amendment allowing abortion an old ruling can always be overturned/revised.
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Republicans don't want the law changed because if it ever is, they will never win an election again
 
sturg33 said:
Republicans don't want the law changed because if it ever is, they will never win an election again
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So if it's Republicans that will never change it because they want to use it as a political ploy every election, why do you cast blame on Women and Democrats?
 
AerchAngel said:
The only thing Dummicrats can rely on, scare tactics. They are lost when it comes to fiscal responsibility which the Repukans are just a tad a bit above in responsibility (war machine and in bed with big business), but even they suck, but not as much.
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The Dems don't hold a monopoly on scare tactics. The NRA feasts on the fear of gun owners. You'd swear there is a homosexual conspiracy poised to take over the world if you listen to some commentators on the right. That's the problem right now. Nobody has what I would call a forward strategy.
 
50PoundHead said:
The Dems don't hold a monopoly on scare tactics. The NRA feasts on the fear of gun owners. You'd swear there is a homosexual conspiracy poised to take over the world if you listen to some commentators on the right. That's the problem right now. Nobody has what I would call a forward strategy.
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Exactly. The Obama is going to take all our guns away and put is in concentration camps like Hitler is probably the biggest scare tactic the NRA uses. Then when the next President is inaugurated they'll claim victory to preventing Obama from putting us in concentration camps.
 
KeithLockhart said:
So if it's Republicans that will never change it because they want to use it as a political ploy every election, why do you cast blame on Women and Democrats?
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I blame women for being dumb enough to believe it will ever change.

I remember the stats from the last election and was astounded how many women voted for Obama and abortion was their biggest reason why.
 
zitothebrave said:
Then why campaign against it? Why not just say it's up to the parents and individual to make smart choices and so on so forth.
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Because campaigning against it gets the voters out. And each time they never overturn it they claim they need more republicans in office to get it done.
 
sturg33 said:
Because campaigning against it gets the voters out. And each time they never overturn it they claim they need more republicans in office to get it done.
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Correct. It's all about motivating segments of voters and the right-to-life movement is a very active and relatively large voting base.
 
sturg33 said:
I blame women for being dumb enough to believe it will ever change.

I remember the stats from the last election and was astounded how many women voted for Obama and abortion was their biggest reason why.
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So isn't it the fault of Grand Old Party for employing a benighted, backwards strategy that accomplishes the opposite of its goal, not an example of "women [...] being dumb"?
 
jpx7 said:
So isn't it the fault of Grand Old Party for employing a benighted, backwards strategy that accomplishes the opposite of its goal, not an example of "women [...] being dumb"?
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I don't think so.

My girlfriend is in medical school. I was with her and several of her med school friends on election night 2012.

Once Obama was called as the winner, there was a massive cheer. And in unison they said "My uterus is mine, bitch!"

Note - my girlfriend was not one of these people. She is staunchly pro-choice, but now understands how little of importance it is when it comes to elections. She voted for Romney because she, like ALL of her med-school friends, were scared to death of ObamaCare and what it would mean for their futures. They ALL agreed it was terrible for them. And yet, they ALL voted for Obama out of fear of abortion.

Like I said - dumb.
 
SO then why don't republicans just come out and say that abortion isn't an issue they're going to campaign for or against? If it's such an issue and such a reason why Obama won then why not ditch it?

Pretty consistently in Gallop polls it indicates that only 20% of people think that abortion should be illegal. Ditch the right to life BS and let the RR go their own way. Approach everything from a more sensible ground. The RR would either fall in line, or make their own party, either way on a national stage the Rs have little hope for presidency because lets face it, they have many beliefs that are screwed by the views basically forced by the RR.
 
zitothebrave said:
SO then why don't republicans just come out and say that abortion isn't an issue they're going to campaign for or against? If it's such an issue and such a reason why Obama won then why not ditch it?

Pretty consistently in Gallop polls it indicates that only 20% of people think that abortion should be illegal. Ditch the right to life BS and let the RR go their own way. Approach everything from a more sensible ground. The RR would either fall in line, or make their own party, either way on a national stage the Rs have little hope for presidency because lets face it, they have many beliefs that are screwed by the views basically forced by the RR.
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Your post is disingenuous. Your 20% is illegal in ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, but the more important one people look at is the 52% that allows it to be legal in CERTAIN circumstances and I believe that to be higher.

Look at the link.
 
When I say abortion to be illegal I presumed that's what people would read, my bad.

ANyway, the 52% in the middle side more to the dems belief of legal with certain stipulations (such as no 3rd trimester, etc.)
 
sturg33 said:
I don't think so.

My girlfriend is in medical school. I was with her and several of her med school friends on election night 2012.

Once Obama was called as the winner, there was a massive cheer. And in unison they said "My uterus is mine, bitch!"

Note - my girlfriend was not one of these people. She is staunchly pro-choice, but now understands how little of importance it is when it comes to elections. She voted for Romney because she, like ALL of her med-school friends, were scared to death of ObamaCare and what it would mean for their futures. They ALL agreed it was terrible for them. And yet, they ALL voted for Obama out of fear of abortion.

Like I said - dumb.
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Sick, wicked, and depraved. I am so growing in my hatred of this country.
 
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