Ben Carson: Muslim shouldn't be president

BedellBrave said:
I think POTUS is a liberal "Christian" of a fairly mild liberationist stripe. Coming from the black Christian tradition, he probably doesn't completely jettison supernaturalism, but likely downplays it. "Grace" for him isn't so much as unmerited divine favor (though he's got room for that), it's more something horizontal - offered to others, a Golden Rule as understood by theological progressives/liberals.
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Dude, you DO remember who your audience is (even if we're just talking about me), right? :happy0157:
 
BedellBrave said:
And no, I don't think any of us would want an orthodox Muslim to be POTUS. Why is this even a debatable?
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why is anyone running for president thinking their religion should be the one to run the gov't?

i mean, we already know what happens when we put religious people in Gov't from the actions of the religious radical in Kentucky
 
goldfly said:
why is anyone running for president thinking their religion should be the one to run the gov't?

i mean, we already know what happens when we put religious people in Gov't from the actions of the religious radical in Kentucky
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They all do. Every last one of them.

We always put religious people in Gov't. Get over it. Question is, what type?

Again, of course no one here wants someone committed to an Islamic theocracy as POTUS.
 
goldfly said:
why is anyone running for president thinking their religion should be the one to run the gov't?
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Because she has to appear that way to get votes and maintain popular support?

I agree that even though voters live in bubbles, the president has to reside over all the bubbles and shouldn't be too heavily of one stripe.
 
BedellBrave said:
They all do. Every last one of them.

We always put religious people in Gov't. Get over it. Question is, what type?

Again, of course no one here wants someone committed to an Islamic theocracy as POTUS.
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Hope you'll be alive in 30-40 years when that won't matter much when it comes to election cycles nationally. :FrediGreen:
 
BedellBrave said:
They all do. Every last one of them.

We always put religious people in Gov't. Get over it.
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do we? or do we have some that know they have to play the game of the fringe and religious lunatics that think their religion should be law?

excuse me, i can't figure out if i am talking about Republican and US politics or the mullahs and Iran politics right now

i would prefer atheists to be president honestly. would maybe speed up the process of things getting done around here since they only believe this short time we have on earth is it forever but whatever :shrugs
 
goldfly said:
do we? or do we have some that know they have to play the game of the fringe and religious lunatics that think their religion should be law?

excuse me, i can't figure out if i am talking about Republican and US politics or the mullahs and Iran politics right now

i would prefer atheists to be president honestly. would maybe speed up the process of things getting done around here since they only believe this short time we have on earth is it forever but whatever :shrugs
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Yes we do.

If you can't then you are just being lazy.

And you'd still have a religious person in government.
 
BedellBrave said:
Not my musical cup of tea, but I'd say it represents a fairly popular religious viewpoint that has a long pedigree. Are you asking for something else?
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We already have the "something else". I'm fine with the basic sentiment as long as it's personal and not promoting a Christian theocracy.
 
Runnin said:
We already have the "something else". I'm fine with the basic sentiment as long as it's personal and not promoting a Christian theocracy.
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There are theocrats and then there are theocrats. I'd describe the sentiment in your video more as a "Christian nationalism" - which I'm not that fond of either - maybe surprisingly - because it usually waters down true Christianity to something it is not (or should not be). I actually think it will be good for the true Church in the USA to be and recognize itself as a minority view.
 
BedellBrave said:
I'd describe the sentiment in your video more as a "Christian nationalism" - which I'm not that fond of either - maybe surprisingly - because it usually waters down true Christianity to something it is not (or should not be).
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Complete agreement. Yippee.

BedellBrave said:
I actually think it will be good for the true Church in the USA to be and recognize itself as a minority view.
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Wow. That didn't last long. lol
 
Runnin said:
Complete agreement. Yippee.

Wow. That didn't last long. lol
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What didn't last long? By "true Church in the USA" I mean any and all historically-orthodox Christians and congregations - particularly as opposed to nominal-"Christian nationalists," frauds-shysters, and those that have jettisoned cardinal doctrines. I don't get your response.
 
BedellBrave said:
What didn't last long? By "true Church in the USA" I mean any and all historically-orthodox Christians and congregations - particularly as opposed to nominal-"Christian nationalists," frauds-shysters, and those that have jettisoned cardinal doctrines. I don't get your response.
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Benny Hinn?
 
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