Bethancourt

If he's getting the attention and training that he needs in terms of the "checklist" that they mentioned earlier, I'm happy to let him stay down as long as the deem necessary. By all accounts, it was his attention to detail and understanding the leadership aspects of his job that hurt him. It's a plus that he's hitting the ball well. But you can be sure that the process is what the focal point is now and he's learning to be a pro.
 
Deester11 said:
And a good way to be sure he can't is to keep him in the minors? Great idea.
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Of course he needs to prove he can hit MLB pitching by being in the majors but to cite his minor league numbers as some sort of definitive reason that he needs to be called up is dumb. In 230 AB's in the majors he has a OPS+ of 47, an IsoOBP of 20 and an IsoSLG of 50
 
BRule said:
Of course he needs to prove he can hit MLB pitching by being in the majors but to cite his minor league numbers as some sort of definitive reason that he needs to be called up is dumb. In 230 AB's in the majors he has a OPS+ of 47, an IsoOBP of 20 and an IsoSLG of 50
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I haven't done that personally. I've seen him more than most people. I'm no scout. But from Orlando to now, he's had to be knocked down to get up. This was good for him. But the banish treatment is stupid unless the FO has moved on.
 
Deester11 said:
I haven't done that personally. I've seen him more than most people. I'm no scout. But from Orlando to now, he's had to be knocked down to get up. This was good for him. But the banish treatment is stupid unless the FO has moved on.
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I just don't think it's at the point where we can call it "banish treatment."
 
Deester11 said:
I haven't done that personally. I've seen him more than most people. I'm no scout. But from Orlando to now, he's had to be knocked down to get up. This was good for him. But the banish treatment is stupid unless the FO has moved on.
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Agreed with the latter point and honestly he probably should be playing FT now so we see if he falls flat again or if he can actually hit, so we know for next year. I just don't agree with whoever posted his minor league numbers as THE reason he should be up. THE reason he should be up is, we suck and we need to know what he is.
 
BRule said:
Agreed with the latter point and honestly he probably should be playing FT now so we see if he falls flat again or if he can actually hit, so we know for next year. I just don't agree with whoever posted his minor league numbers as THE reason he should be up. THE reason he should be up is, we suck and we need to know what he is.
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He needs to be up for 2 reasons: 1) We're not competing for anything and we need to know if he can learn to hit major league pitching, and 2) He's now proven he can hit AAA pitching very well, so we need to know if he can learn to hit major league pitching.

They're both reasons for him to be called up.
 
I think he will get his shot when rosters expand. I dont know why anyone is complaining we probably saved a year of service time out of it.
 
I think it's an AJ issue more than a Bethancourt issue. We are struggling to score any runs as it is and AJ is the more effective hitter. AJ has more experience to help our young pitchers learn the game. If we bring Bethancourt up it will be too tempting to start AJ against righties, etc. It's better to let Bethancourt work on his catching skills fulltime. I'd leave him in Gwinnett until the AAA season ends and then after that bring him up to catch fulltime here to finish off the season.
 
I'd like to have him back too but if it is a development thing, I have to trust the pros who see him daily. That article was reassuring.
 
I am not a CB fan, but he has never hit like this at any level. Patience, average, and extra base hits on a consistent basis. Call him up and see if its for real. Think they are waiting to move AJ.
 
atl717 said:
I am not a CB fan, but he has never hit like this at any level. Patience, average, and extra base hits on a consistent basis. Call him up and see if its for real. Think they are waiting to move AJ.
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He's probably not as good as his AAA hitting this year suggests. But he's going to be a useful major league player. For a team that is pointing to the future and doesn't have many catching options in the system, I would hope that he isn't traded unless an amazing offer comes in.
 
Deester11 said:
Profound.
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I am not asking for much. Batting average near .255 and OPS in the .600-.625 range. Nothing worldly, but he can't even do that or at least he hasn't been able to. I realize he has around 220 at bats, but he would need to drastically improve to even begin to scratch the surface of the numbers I posted.
 
nsacpi said:
He's probably not as good as his AAA hitting this year suggests. But he's going to be a useful major league player. For a team that is pointing to the future and doesn't have ma
ny catching options in the system, I would hope that he isn't traded unless an amazing offer comes in.
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Sure I get that, but we can't always be banking or counting on someone for the future every single time. Eventually we need players to be in the present. Sooner or later we need to move on and try someone else/
 
atl717 said:
I am not a CB fan, but he has never hit like this at any level. Patience, average, and extra base hits on a consistent basis. Call him up and see if its for real. Think they are waiting to move AJ.
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Or they are hoping more GM's who were "not a fan" either are starting to be intrigued too.
 
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