Biden Drops Out of Race
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The general elections are pretty much getting the countries vitals before the real thing.
Real thing, January 6th.
I think the root cause was simply failing to conduct an honest, competitive Primary. Maybe the answer is a national Primary conducted in the summer of an election year. I think the election process is far too bloated and complicated for what is really just partisan voters choosing their figurehead.
You don't think the Democratic party publicly pulling their support had an affect on public opinion.
If Dem elites came out and firmly stood behind Biden, I would be willing to bet that poll looks vastly different. But he wasnt who they wanted they wanted anymore, so they staged a coup.
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FYI, in this poll on July 3, 48% of Dems still backed Biden as the nominee, compared to 47% who didn't. Are we to believe the Dem sentiment about a Biden re-election had an organic 31 point swing in less than month? Or is it more likely that weakened public support among top Democrats was a bigger factor to public opinion?
Yeah **** all those people that voted for the candidate they wanted, amirite? Letting the party choose for them is quite clearly the more democratic option.
Sorta like keeping Trump off the ballot is protecting democracy.
Tapate50
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They have been the stalwarts of affecting who is on the ballot for the last year+! Amazing lack of depth of their constituents to not see through it.
57Brave
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I think the vast majority of voters are pretty tuned out to the daily politics grind and the avalanche of takes saying Joe Biden’s brain is mush impacted sentiment more than what Chuck Schumer has ever said. I think Dem Elites are all basically spineless cowards and the pressure came from public perception and fundraising.
Yes, but that’s not a left/right divide, it’s just how people engage with politics and news. I had several conversations with friends and family in the middle of nowhere Northern Wisconsin telling me how illegal immigration was personally ruining their lives, despite them living somewhere that has essentially zero immigrants of any sort. Authority is a big thing for a lot of people, and many trust that someone that largely agrees with them on issues will tell them the truth.
Nah, it was a pretty stable group that mostly own their homes and are doing just fine.
If he were still in the race, I think you would find that majority of Dem voters would support him staying in the race, rather than backing out.
Dem elites turned their back on him after the debate because the writing was on the wall. He was polling poorly and the debate was supposed to be the time to turn public sentiment. He failed miserably and the Dem immediately withdrew support.
sturg33
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There are a lot of similarities between the Trump base and the left's base, where they simply twist themselves to support what the party commands
But overall, there are tons of ideological diversity among people from the right that I do not see from people on the left. This very board is illustrative - me, thethe, aces, chop, tapate, garmle, etc actually debate multiple issues, disagree often. foreign policy, social entitlements, trade policy, foreign policy, pro life policy and on and on
wheras you, nsacpi, runnin, 57, zito, etc are all in lock step. Trans the kids. Masks work. the border is fine. Trump is an existential threat. Guns are bad. aboriton is good. There's nothing to see on covid, and on and on
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To further this point.. The aforementioned "right leaning people" aren't even aligned enough to all vote for Trump. Myself, aces, and chop are all out I think. thethe, garmle, are in. Not sure where tapate landed, but it's illustrative that we can actually think.
you, nsacpi, 57, zito, etc are all 100% alligned that Stalin himself could be on the ticket and you will pull the lever