Black Lives Matter...

Jaw said:
Now cross reference it with police interactions, arrests, or crime rates.
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If police are more likely to harass black people than white people, are more likely to arrest black people than white people, etc. it skews all your numbers.
 
zitothebrave said:
If police are more likely to harass black people than white people, are more likely to arrest black people than white people, etc. it skews all your numbers.
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Do arrests for breaking the law count as harassment? Have you seen numbers that show blacks are harassed during lawful behavior at a greater rate than whites?
 
Its actually sad how the media narrative has continued to erode peoples understanding of data and facts.

There is actual data that support racism in criminal justice.

There is no evidence to support racist cops physically abusing black people more than white
 
Jaw said:
Do arrests for breaking the law count as harassment? Have you seen numbers that show blacks are harassed during lawful behavior at a greater rate than whites?
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police pull black people over for no reason disproportionately...unless driving while black is a legitimate reason

also more likely to cuff them and throw them against a wall, etc, etc
 
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• Compliance by civilians doesn’t eliminate racial differences in police use of force. Black civilians who were recorded as compliant by police were 21% more likely to suffer police aggression than compliant whites. We also found that the benefits of compliance differed significantly by race. This was perhaps our most upsetting result, for two reasons: The inequity in spite of compliance clashed with the notion that the difference in police treatment of blacks and whites was a rational response to danger. And it complicates what we tell our kids: Compliance does make you less likely to endure a beat-down—but the benefit is larger if you are white.

https://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/roland-fryer-in-the-wsj-what-the-data-say-about-police
 
• There are large racial differences in police use of nonlethal force. My research team analyzed nearly five million police encounters from New York City. We found that when police reported the incidents, they were 53% more likely to use physical force on a black civilian than a white one. In a separate, nationally representative dataset asking civilians about their experiences with police, we found the use of physical force on blacks to be 350% as likely. This is true of every level of nonlethal force, from officers putting their hands on civilians to striking them with batons. We controlled for every variable available in myriad ways. That reduced the racial disparities by 66%, but blacks were still significantly more likely to endure police force.
 
I wish the dem politicians in these dem cities where we see these racist cops might stop and think whether they are part of the problem
 
nsacpi said:
police pull black people over for no reason disproportionately...unless driving while black is a legitimate reason

also more likely to cuff them and throw them against a wall, etc, etc
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Stats for that?
 
nsacpi said:
• Compliance by civilians doesn’t eliminate racial differences in police use of force. Black civilians who were recorded as compliant by police were 21% more likely to suffer police aggression than compliant whites. We also found that the benefits of compliance differed significantly by race. This was perhaps our most upsetting result, for two reasons: The inequity in spite of compliance clashed with the notion that the difference in police treatment of blacks and whites was a rational response to danger. And it complicates what we tell our kids: Compliance does make you less likely to endure a beat-down—but the benefit is larger if you are white.

https://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/roland-fryer-in-the-wsj-what-the-data-say-about-police
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Who determines whether the civilian was compliant?
 
Jaw said:
Do arrests for breaking the law count as harassment? Have you seen numbers that show blacks are harassed during lawful behavior at a greater rate than whites?
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Ummm, are you serious?

Look up any amount of seriously information on the topic of systemic racism. It's not that hard.
 
sturg33 said:
Its actually sad how the media narrative has continued to erode peoples understanding of data and facts.

There is actual data that support racism in criminal justice.

There is no evidence to support racist cops physically abusing black people more than white
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You're a clown.

I'm not even gonna honor you with stats because we've been down this road and you still clown out.
 
nsacpi said:
• There are large racial differences in police use of nonlethal force. My research team analyzed nearly five million police encounters from New York City. We found that when police reported the incidents, they were 53% more likely to use physical force on a black civilian than a white one. In a separate, nationally representative dataset asking civilians about their experiences with police, we found the use of physical force on blacks to be 350% as likely. This is true of every level of nonlethal force, from officers putting their hands on civilians to striking them with batons. We controlled for every variable available in myriad ways. That reduced the racial disparities by 66%, but blacks were still significantly more likely to endure police force.
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Can you think of anything that may distort people's perception of how they were treated? Are there any national narratives that may impact the attitudes of blacks in their interactions with police?
 
thethe said:
I don’t have a fact/data based response so I will just say SYSTEMIC RACISM!
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I've applied facts here. You're the one who's provided nothing and just keeps spewing nonsense.

New York literally made a law that let cops be racist. Here let's look at 2011 (pre-lawsuit) stop and frisk stats

https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data

In 2011, 685,724 NYPD stops were recorded.
605,328 were innocent (88 percent).
350,743 were Black (53 percent).
223,740 were Latinx (34 percent).
61,805 were white (9 percent).
341,581 were aged 14-24 (51 percent).
 
zitothebrave said:
Ummm, are you serious?

Look up any amount of seriously information on the topic of systemic racism. It's not that hard.
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You're obviously more informed than I am, because I've never seen any evidence of this, despite a great deal of looking. Obviously flawed studies such as the one nsacpi just posted are the closest thing I have seen to proof. Please, enlighten me.
 
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