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sturg33 said:
Freeman, Heyward, Upton, Kimbrel, Simmons, Wood, Gattis, Teheran >>> Sale, Quintana, Eaton, Frazier, Robertson

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Freeman is the best asset of those names, and we'll never get true value back for him. Pointless to trade him. Chicago had way better assets to trade than we did, i dont see how thats debateable given the control those players had. Teams arent gonna fork over their farms for players with 1 year of control.

Heyward and Upton had 1 year, you wont get strong value back for them as if they had 3-4 years of control. But we did turn Heyward into Inciarte and Dansby.

Sale, Quintana, Eaton is better trade value than anything we had to ship off.

Unfortunately when Coppy dealt Kimbrel the RP market isnt like it is now, but shipping BJ with Kimbrel was dumb. Kimbrel alone should have gotten a better deal and we could have just DFA'd BJ.

Gattis turned into Folty who is looking like an ace/#2 in the making, minus 2-3 horrific starts, he has a sub-3 ERA. Yes i know they count but still he has had an impressive year.
 
What is the point on putting freeman's name in there? Copy and Co nailed it by not trading him.
 
thethe said:
What is the point on putting freeman's name in there? Copy and Co nailed it by not trading him.
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Because people brag on the White Sox, but that's because they traded their biggest chips, while we held on to ours. Add what Julio and Freeman would have fetched (traded at the right times), and there would be no discussion about who has the best farm. Not saying I want Freeman traded (I do want Julio traded), but that's the facts.
 
The 1-10 with Sox/Braves can be debated either way but if you include the depth of the systems, 11-20 and on, it's not even close to who has the best farm system.
 
And i'm not even sure what a realistic trade package for Freeman could even possibly be.
 
TheBravos said:
Because people brag on the White Sox, but that's because they traded their biggest chips, while we held on to ours. Add what Julio and Freeman would have fetched (traded at the right times), and there would be no discussion about who has the best farm. Not saying I want Freeman traded (I do want Julio traded), but that's the facts.
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In your wildest imagination was Julio going to bring a king's ransom at any point. The first post in this thread demonstrates the complete dip****edness of this entire thread.
 
Knucksie said:
In your wildest imagination was Julio going to bring a king's ransom at any point. The first post in this thread demonstrates the complete dip****edness of this entire thread.
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I said Freddie would bring back a king's ransom...not Julio. I also said this was for discussion sake and I neither thought it would or wanted it to happen. If you don't like the thread...move on.
 
TheBravos said:
Because people brag on the White Sox, but that's because they traded their biggest chips, while we held on to ours. Add what Julio and Freeman would have fetched (traded at the right times), and there would be no discussion about who has the best farm. Not saying I want Freeman traded (I do want Julio traded), but that's the facts.
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The whole idea to to convert your current assets into more valuable assets. The braves holding onto freeman at the start of the rebuild perfectly fit into that objective better than any trade the white sox made.
 
thethe said:
The whole idea to to convert your current assets into more valuable assets. The braves holding onto freeman at the start of the rebuild perfectly fit into that objective better than any trade the white sox made.
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They made a great call with Freddie, but if he would have taken Julio's path, everyone would have been grumbling about us keeping him when we could have gotten a good return. Normally on a complete rebuild, you keep only young cheap assets. Don't get me wrong...I am really glad we kept Freddie, but he was our #1 trade chip.
 
TheBravos said:
They made a great call with Freddie, but if he would have taken Julio's path, everyone would have been grumbling about us keeping him when we could have gotten a good return. Normally on a complete rebuild, you keep only young cheap assets. Don't get me wrong...I am really glad we kept Freddie, but he was our #1 trade chip.
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At the start of the rebuild the braves probably considered Julio an undervalued asset. There was definitely a time after where the proper move would have been to trade but nobody is ever 100%.
 
thethe said:
At the start of the rebuild the braves probably considered Julio an undervalued asset. There was definitely a time after where the proper move would have been to trade but nobody is ever 100%.
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100% glad we kept Freddie. The time to trade Julio was last trade deadline or the offseason...pretty sure we keep him at this point.
 
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