zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
You think that Al Queda would have gotten where they got without our help? I think you're highly dilusional. WIthout US intervention the Soviets would have rolled Afghanistan.
Boko Haram
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You think that Al Queda would have gotten where they got without our help? I think you're highly dilusional. WIthout US intervention the Soviets would have rolled Afghanistan.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
except they aren't destroying the world
but whatever
how can you be part of something if you don't communicate etc with someone else in "your group of world destroyers"?
I get what you are saying, but don't really understand how it's remotely relevant to the way the group operates today.
Or would you have preferred the USSR control Afghanistan?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Never said I would prefer one or the other but our actions have consequences.
And how it is relevant, because we have more than a few times utilized and paid and armed extremists in the past to get our results.
That doesn't mean that we either a) condone or b) are directly responsible for their recent actions.
It was the lesser of two evils.
Plus, the extremist elements within that particular religious/political belief system hadn't begun to evolve at the time. That came much later.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
But we actively support the Saudis, Qataris, etc. who support those groups.
How do you mean support (with the Saudis/Quataris)? Engage in diplomatic relations?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Well in the case of the Saudis we're part of the reason the king who the majority of the people hate is in power. WE keep people in power who keep our oil interests alive and functioning strong. Countries who trade on the dollar in oil will have less guff from us probably even active support through covert means.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
no one can control that graveyard of nations
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
If you read about what was going on behind the scenes in the USSR during their war years, you'd be hard pressed to say that the Soviets would have controlled Afghanistan (another good read—Afghansty, by Rodric Braithwaite). Their late offensive may have been successful without the US intervention, but that's still a long way from saying that they could have effectively consolidated those gains. They still would have failed, and they still would have collapsed.
Plus, the extremist elements within that particular religious/political belief system hadn't begun to evolve at the time. That came much later.
That's debatable. I'm inclined to disagree. And you can go all the way back to T.E. Lawrence warning about what might happen if the Saud crowd came to power . . . and that was before we knew they were swimming in oil.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Mongols did. In fact, they killed them back to the stone age, quite literally.