Braves Acquire Matt Adams From Cardinals

Super said:
are we really going to use a 7-game sample size to draw any conclusion whatsoever?

again: only when it fits the desired narrative is this OK, apparently.
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It is interesting that you were ready to make room for Adams after a sample size not much more than 7 games. After a week in Atlanta everyone was sure he had tripled his trade value.

But fine, tell me when to bump this thread again. Care to put any stakes on what the results will be?

Never mind, I know your answer.
 
Enscheff said:
It is interesting that you were ready to make room for Adams after a sample size not much more than 7 games. After a week in Atlanta everyone was sure he had tripled his trade value.

But fine, tell me when to bump this thread again. Care to put any stakes on what the results will be?

Never mind, I know your answer.
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August 1st. Nothing matters pre-July
 
bravesfanMatt said:
How many fly balls has he had over the last 7 days..

and wait.. are we supposed to be upset at an .838 OPS?!? I am confused by all of this. It has a nega-brave slant but it really isn't nega-numbers.
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Nope, but it shows what happens as his HR rate falls, exactly as I predicted. As that rate continues to fall, and his number continue to slide as a result, it will be even more clear.

Then we will look back and say "why did they move Freeman to 3B to make room for Adams?".
 
msstate7 said:
August 1st. Nothing matters pre-July
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Ahh, so his decrease in HR rate doesn't matter yet, but when he was popping them out every other swing he had suddenly tripled his trade value and became good enough to move Freeman from 1B?

Got it. Derrrrrp!
 
thewupk said:
What's more realistic? Adams is suddenly one of the top homerun hitters in baseball or he had a hot run that has come back down to normalish levels over the past week?
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I'm just not using 7 days as any kind of indicator of anything at all.
 
msstate7 said:
In the world of SSS, which is more reliable...

6 games = .838 ops
35 games = .981 ops
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LOL, ok bud.

I'll bump this thread August 1 like you suggested.

Looking forward to your excuses when his HR rate is hovering around 15% and his resultant OPS is ~.800.
 
msstate7 said:
In the world of SSS, which is more reliable...

6 games = .838 ops
35 games = .981 ops
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What will his numbers be with FF protecting him in the lineup. Surely with FF and KEMvP on base in front of him, he will be close to 1.200 again. Assuming KEMvP doesn't just go bananas again with the homers.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
What will his numbers be with FF protecting him in the lineup. Surely with FF and KEMvP on base in front of him, he will be close to 1.200 again. Assuming KEMvP doesn't just go bananas again with the homers.
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The same thing that happened with Kemp is currently happening with Adams. I predicted both, and folks still argue.

How many times does the same exact thing have to happen before it dawns on the derpi-Barves?
 
No one, as far as I know, has made any proclamations about Adams. He's certainly hit better than I'd say anyone expected so far. He's looking like a better hitter than he had shown in St. Louis the past few years. Even at an .838 OPS, he's fine. I don't think anyone claimed he's one of the better hitters in the game and will be forever and ever. I think every single person here would agree that his numbers will regress from where they are currently. So why are people trying so hard to be right about something that no one is even arguing
 
bravesfanMatt said:
What will his numbers be with FF protecting him in the lineup. Surely with FF and KEMvP on base in front of him, he will be close to 1.200 again. Assuming KEMvP doesn't just go bananas again with the homers.
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Hitters 3-5 in the lineup will have an ops sum over 3.0. FF and Adams will pitch in to pay KEMvP's salary to keep his protection. It's no accident that Adams and FF are ops'n at career highs with KEMvP's protection. FF can sit on 3b and KEMvP can bring a lawn chair to LF... won't matter bc we gonna score more than the falcons
 
thewupk said:
What's more realistic? Adams is suddenly one of the top homerun hitters in baseball or he had a hot run that has come back down to normalish levels over the past week?
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I don't think his HR rate ever climbed above 23%, which is not particularly out of sorts with his career best season long sample of 20%.

I know you stat boys are anxious to be proven right but you have to know that a seven game sample is weak, weak sauce.

Which is not by any way an assertion or prediction as to where Adams ends up. He might well "normalize" in this particular statistic or all of them.

But changing parks, getting in a lot better shape, and getting regular playing time is a reasonable explanation for why a player might perform closer to his career highs rather than his career lows.
 
Super said:
No one, as far as I know, has made any proclamations about Adams. He's certainly hit better than I'd say anyone expected so far. He's looking like a better hitter than he had shown in St. Louis the past few years. Even at an .838 OPS, he's fine. I don't think anyone claimed he's one of the better hitters in the game and will be forever and ever. I think every single person here would agree that his numbers will regress from where they are currently. So why are people trying so hard to be right about something that no one is even arguing
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Did you miss all the posts in this very thread about Adams being a better hitter becasue he lost weight as "just needed a chance"?

Did you miss the posts about him being so valuable in trade that he could get a 50 FV prospect in return?

Do you need me to copy/paste a dozen of them haha?
 
Southcack77 said:
I don't think his HR rate ever climbed above 23%, which is not particularly out of sorts with his career best season long sample of 20%.

I know you stat boys are anxious to be proven right but you have to know that a seven game sample is weak, weak sauce.

Which is not by any way an assertion or prediction as to where Adams ends up. He might well "normalize" in this particular statistic or all of them.

But changing parks, getting in a lot better shape, and getting regular playing time is a reasonable explanation for why a player might perform closer to his career highs rather than his career lows.
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ok man so you just think he's the next joey votto. i can't wait to show you how wrong you are in that thing you didn't say but i said you said.
 
Southcack77 said:
I don't think his HR rate ever climbed above 23%, which is not particularly out of sorts with his career best season long sample of 20%.

I know you stat boys are anxious to be proven right but you have to know that a seven game sample is weak, weak sauce.

Which is not by any way an assertion or prediction as to where Adams ends up. He might well "normalize" in this particular statistic or all of them.

But changing parks, getting in a lot better shape, and getting regular playing time is a reasonable explanation for why a player might perform closer to his career highs rather than his career lows.
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There is no "might" about it.

I'll bump this thread again on August 1. You will be proven wrong, again.

By then you will be ignorantly blabbering about something else...wrong...again.

Adams is the same hitter he was when the Braves acquired him. He has the exact same trade value he had when the Braves acquired him. The Braves should hold onto him as a potent bench bat for next year unless they can package him with other pieces to get a legit 45/50 FV prospect in return.
 
Enscheff said:
There is no "might" about it.

I'll bump this thread again on August 1. You will be proven wrong, again.

By then you will be ignorantly blabbering about something else...wrong...again.

Adams is the same hitter he was when the Braves acquired him. He has the exact same trade value he had when the Braves acquired him. The Braves should hold onto him as a potent bench bat for next year unless they can package him with other pieces to get a legit 45/50 FV prospect in return.
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what is it that I'm going to be wrong about?

What assertion have I made?

I just want to know in advance so I can be prepared.
 
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